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Scratched bore reassembling shortblock #2703478
10/03/19 04:37 PM
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Number 4 cylinder oil retaining ring scratch cylinder. Pulled piston rehoned gonna try it what do you guys think about .001 deep .Every thing fresh ughhhhh

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Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: 71Pan] #2703492
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is that a crack???

Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: krautrock] #2703493
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that's a crack

Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: squirrel] #2703496
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Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: squirrel] #2703497
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Gouge, crack, whatever... not good.

Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: BradH] #2703501
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not a crack block just magged

Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: krautrock] #2703502
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Originally Posted by krautrock
is that a crack???

I would agree...scratches usually are straight as a string...cracks not so much


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Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: W.I.N. Racing] #2703505
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Unless you dropped something harder then the bore in it, it does lookie like buttcrack, buttman.

UMMM did you by chance file your own rings?

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Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: Mr PotatoHead] #2703508
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That is a crack - no doubt time for a sleeve

Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: DoubleD] #2703521
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I will take your word for it and assume that is not a crack.

It looks like there is some flashing over the edge of the scratch making it appear as a crack though? I can see the skipping of the ring in the gouge after looking close at your picture. I have ran bores that were pitted pretty good but never a long, horizontal wound like that. What kind of ring are you using? Can you hone it another thou and make it go away completely?

How much hp are we talking?



Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: Jeremiah] #2703538
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its not a crack the thing everyone thinks is a crack is actually standing proud. The pic was before i remove piston and rehoned

Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: 71Pan] #2703539
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C A rings plama moly standard tension 416 360-1 head ported 266 @50 .637 cam 500 vert 4.10 gear hp should be 600 to 625

Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: 71Pan] #2703542
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It looks like a crack to me, you can use heat to make sure. I've used heat guns, hair dryers, propane torches to help identify cracks in cast iron, apply heat and watch closely to see if it moves, grows or change how it looks scope
Way better to find out now before reassembling it work
BTW, if it was sticking above the cylinder wall, what would cause that work shruggy It should have flatten out with the honing unless you use a dingle berry hone work shruggy

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Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: Cab_Burge] #2703549
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The block sonic tested well over .200 in that area dont know how i would .have cracked the wall tapping a piston in.

Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: 71Pan] #2703553
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Get it magnafluxed, then you'll know for sure.

Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: rickraw] #2703554
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k just had it magged and cooked before new ring and bearings

Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: 71Pan] #2703595
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Hone it and run it. Less area there than in your ring gap.You ought to see what dirt track guys run.

Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: 71Pan] #2703597
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I missed the mag post. Doh.

Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: rickraw] #2703617
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Re: Scratched bore reassembling shortblock [Re: 71Pan] #2703619
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Originally Posted by 71Pan
The block sonic tested well over .200 in that area don't know how I would .have cracked the wall tapping a piston in.
No way in the world that you could have caused that crack, NO WAY tskshruggy
I've assembled more than one motor, I see straight scratches in the new honed cylinder a lot from me not getting the file to fit ring ends smooth enough to not scratch the cylinder walls, none of them have ever looked like your does confuseds
Me thinks your shop did not mag that cylinder wall, take it back and have them look at it now to be safe scope twocents
I've had several good auto Hi Po machine shops in SO CA miss external cracks on several different 906 heads that where cracked under the exhaust ports, most shops do a lot more other brands than BB Mopars and neither one was aware that those freeze cracks are not uncommon on 906 heads rant shruggy


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