Re: 413 engine ID help wanted
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09/28/19 01:18 AM
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The block should have a casting number cast on both sides of the block along with a casting date on one or both sides of the block also. Post both of those numbers to help us help you
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Re: 413 engine ID help wanted
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09/29/19 01:04 AM
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The books I have don't go back that far so it could be a 1961. R would be 1961 but I haven't seen the M before nor have I seen the serial number on the ID pad. But that is an early block casting so it does make sense that it is a 1961 engine. No, not if you know these early engines, then it makes sense you don’t know what you are typing. I know you wrote a book, but not on early year 413 block stampings. A 1961 will have R41 with the 3 missing. Then the month and day like on a 440 block. 15 years in the 300 club taught me these things.
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Re: 413 engine ID help wanted
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09/29/19 02:26 PM
09/29/19 02:26 PM
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Here is the casting information on the side of the block 1851629 – 1961, 413 RB-series big-block
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Re: 413 engine ID help wanted
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09/29/19 03:12 PM
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Here is the casting information on the side of the block 1851629 – 1961, 413 RB-series big-block 61 and earlier 413 are easy to define,8 bolt extended shaft flange.
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Re: 413 engine ID help wanted
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09/29/19 10:10 PM
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The books I have don't go back that far so it could be a 1961. R would be 1961 but I haven't seen the M before nor have I seen the serial number on the ID pad. But that is an early block casting so it does make sense that it is a 1961 engine. No, not if you know these early engines, then it makes sense you don’t know what you are typing. I know you wrote a book, but not on early year 413 block stampings. A 1961 will have R41 with the 3 missing. Then the month and day like on a 440 block. 15 years in the 300 club taught me these things. Wow, my memory must still be pretty good. I had a '61 413 in the late 1980s and I remembered the R41 (somebody was asking on another site a few weeks ago). Mine also had HP stamped on it (or whatever signified high perf at the time). Couldn't even get the guy 15 miles away with the 300G to come look at it and make me an offer (.030 over, no ring ridge) and he didn't have a motor for his car.
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Re: 413 engine ID help wanted
[Re: Jim_Lusk]
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09/30/19 12:54 PM
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At first I was thinking the M might mean marine but more likely it's for the Marysville engine plant. I still believe the 9004 is the build date.
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Re: 413 engine ID help wanted
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09/30/19 02:02 PM
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At first I was thinking the M might mean marine but more likely it's for the Marysville engine plant. I still believe the 9004 is the build date. What is it with some of you people? Mr Kunkel you are at the head of the line, again. You have much good info, thanks for sharing. You don’t know it all, nobody does. So stop typing out your guesses and believe that others DO know something you do not. I wasn’t asking if you thought I was right. I wasn’t guessing. I was telling you what these numbers mean. But hey, you never believed me on other items before, so here is your proof today. Notice how the build date doesn’t appear on the stamped pad until 1960 model year. I would have posted this info before but I had to spend some time to find it again. I didn’t really think it would be necessary and this typed info would be doubted so much. Jim Lusk thanks for posting your 1961 413 info. More info here. http://www.chrysler300club.com/uniq/id/id.html
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Re: 413 engine ID help wanted
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09/30/19 05:52 PM
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That is all factory stampings. It is a 1959 passenger car 413. 9004 is not a build date it is a serial number, and they don’t match the car, but are close. So they made a 413 in "59? I didn't think it came out till later. When was the first 413? Ok found it, 1959.
Last edited by SportF; 09/30/19 06:40 PM.
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