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1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed #2699012
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After having been without a Mopar for about 2 1/2 years, I now am the proud owner of a 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed. I sold the '68 Valiant (formerly Tim Werner's car) back in November 2016 and had my sights set on finding a '68 or '69 Barracuda 340 4 speed car. The Barracuda market is insane and finding a decent 340 4 speed car proved to be difficult, so I opened up my options to '66 or '67 Plymouth B bodies, which I have long admired. I found this car on a Facebook Belvedere/GTX group. The guy had purchased it recently and posted a pic. I asked if it was for sale. He said yes and gave me a price. We talked and exchange texts and I decided to try to find someone local to the car (it was in PA) to check it out for me. I got a couple of people who offered to look at it for me and a guy on another Mopar forum offered to look at it for me since he has family in the area the car was located. Long story short, he ended being a flake and while trying to juggle his schedule and the seller's, the seller changed his mind. The seller told me he wanted to keep it to enjoy through the summer, but would keep my contact info and he would give me first dibs if/when he decided to sell it. This was at the end of April. A month later, he texts me telling me it's going on the market if I'm still interested. I told him yes and arranged to have a professional appraiser/car inspector look at it. Once I got his report, I pulled the trigger. It took over two months to get a transport company that I trusted to haul it for me. Let's just say that Intercity Lines is great if you're Jay Leno or Wayne Carini. If you're a small-time guy, well, don't hold your breath. I found a father/son team that did a great job for me.

Anyway, on to the car! It's a 383, 4 speed, 3.23 sure-grip, manual steering, manual drum brakes. The car was marketed to me as a survivor and in many ways, I think it is, although I am no expert. It is very well documented and seems very original, but has had some things done to it, such as newer gas tank, electronic ignition and I think the front carpet may have been replaced. I also think some of the car has been repainted, possibly the front clip. I have the original window sticker, Certicard, Owner's Manual, the original handwritten car order and Certificate of Title. It was purchased at Men-Guer Chrysler-Plymouth in Struthers, OH in May 1967. Other documents include timeslips from York Dragway and Sunset Drag Strip. There is also a Class Winner badge from 1968 that came with it. Not sure which dragstrip. though.

It was apparently in storage owned by the same family for a long time. It was sold in early 2017, then auctioned at Spring Carlisle 2017.

I'm looking for the build sheet. It's not under the back seat. I did find a strange section of multi-colored wire and the rear seat belts were taped up and hidden under the back seat.

Here are some pics.

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'67 is an abbreviation of 1967
67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet
They are not interchangeable.
Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: lilcuda] #2699013
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More pics.

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'67 is an abbreviation of 1967
67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet
They are not interchangeable.
Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: lilcuda] #2699014
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'67 is an abbreviation of 1967
67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet
They are not interchangeable.
Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: lilcuda] #2699017
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I will post more pics once I get a chance to take more. Hoping to get it registered tomorrow so I can drive it and then I can get better pics than in my driveway and garage.


'67 is an abbreviation of 1967
67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet
They are not interchangeable.
Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: lilcuda] #2699023
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Nice looking ride! Enjoy!

Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: larry4406] #2699028
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I like that a lot.
I'm not sure, but that might be the steering wheel design that was recalled?

Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: topside] #2699061
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Originally Posted by topside
I like that a lot.
I'm not sure, but that might be the steering wheel design that was recalled?


Tell me more. Not familiar with that.


'67 is an abbreviation of 1967
67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet
They are not interchangeable.
Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: lilcuda] #2699103
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Congrats, that's a sweet car

Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: lilcuda] #2699116
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66-67 is not my strong point, and I could be wrong, but I read somewhere on Moparts that there was a recall on a steering wheel that I think resembled yours.
The guy who'd know would be Scott Smith @ Harms Auto, member here but currently pretty frustrated with the ad thing.
My point was to check it out, you may have a really rare steering wheel.

Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: UCUDANT] #2699127
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Originally Posted by UCUDANT
Congrats, that's a sweet car


Thanks!


'67 is an abbreviation of 1967
67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet
They are not interchangeable.
Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: topside] #2699128
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Originally Posted by topside
66-67 is not my strong point, and I could be wrong, but I read somewhere on Moparts that there was a recall on a steering wheel that I think resembled yours.
The guy who'd know would be Scott Smith @ Harms Auto, member here but currently pretty frustrated with the ad thing.
My point was to check it out, you may have a really rare steering wheel.


I did some searching and found threads with pics. Looks like the recall wheel. I'll ask Scott. He's the guy I bought the aforementioned Valiant from.


'67 is an abbreviation of 1967
67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet
They are not interchangeable.
Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: lilcuda] #2699141
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It was never recalled is what others and Scott told me. I could use that horn pad though! Nice car thanks for sharing.

Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: Suregrip391] #2699185
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My favorite year and car. I have to admit that I have never seen a '67 Belvedere II with both the sill chrome and the chrome strip at the top of the body line. I've seen one or the other but not both. It would be nice to have a better scan of the window sticker. My '67 data book says that the two moldings are only available in packages. Be neat to see what this one has.


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Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: 6PakBee] #2699315
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very cool car!

Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: ogopogo] #2699457
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Yes, that is the recall wheel. Extremely rare to find one these days. 1967 only and recalled...

You already know that I really like the car. Next time we're up in the area I'll give you a call.

Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: Jim_Lusk] #2699711
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Originally Posted by Jim_Lusk
Yes, that is the recall wheel. Extremely rare to find one these days. 1967 only and recalled...

You already know that I really like the car. Next time we're up in the area I'll give you a call.


Scott Smith gave me the full info on the steering wheel. It's actually not the recall wheel (which apparently wasn't actually recalled), but the redesigned wheel, which was only available later in the model year. My car was ordered on 4-4-67 and delivered in mid May, so it is a late build car.

You'll really like seeing it in person. It's kind of time capsule. Although the more I check it out, the more paint work I see.


'67 is an abbreviation of 1967
67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet
They are not interchangeable.
Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: lilcuda] #2700529
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Originally Posted by lilcuda
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Looks like a repaint. Also wrong Aircleaner. Appears to have a late model charging system (squareback alternator)

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Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: dart4forte] #2700586
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Originally Posted by dart4forte

Originally Posted by lilcuda
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Looks like a repaint. Also wrong Aircleaner. Appears to have a late model charging system (squareback alternator)


Yes, as I have spent more time with the car, I am coming to that same conclusion that it is a repaint. Air cleaner looks pretty new, so definitely a recent addition to the car. An old alternator came in a box in the trunk, possibly the original one. But I really don't care if it's not 100% original. It's a very clean, well documented driver, which is what I wanted.


'67 is an abbreviation of 1967
67' is an abbreviation of 67 feet
They are not interchangeable.
Re: 1967 Belvedere II 383 4 speed [Re: lilcuda] #2701863
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Good looking car, nice options. Like the 881 blue paint a lot. Nice to have all those documents. I’ve seen a few cars with both rocker trim and upper body trim. Yea the paperwork reads like it couldn't come with both of those mouldings.

The 1967 383’s never came with that air cleaner, a pie tin or those HP exhaust manifolds either. And the AFB carb 4298/4299 and intake manifold was 2205968 with the narrow bolt pattern. Not the 2706301 Intake of 1968 and 1969.

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