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1971 Road Runner front turn/park lens question. #2700563
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Anyone happen to know what other years/models interchange for the front turn signal/park lens on a 1971 Road Runner? The ones in the valance panel. Year one does not offer a reproduction for this year/model yet. At least not that I could find.


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Re: 1971 Road Runner front turn/park lens question. [Re: SKR8PN] #2700566
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Not exactly, at least in '71 the base models had amber lenses with clear bulbs, while the high trim models had clear lenses with amber bulbs. I don't know about the '72s.


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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
Not exactly, at least in '71 the base models had amber lenses with clear bulbs, while the high trim models had clear lenses with amber bulbs. I don't know about the '72s.

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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
Not exactly, at least in '71 the base models had amber lenses with clear bulbs, while the high trim models had clear lenses with amber bulbs. I don't know about the '72s.


Actually not, there was a change over during the 71 model year from clear lenses to amber lenses. All early build cars should have clear lenses and all late build cars should have amber.


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Originally Posted by Butterscotch71
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Not exactly, at least in '71 the base models had amber lenses with clear bulbs, while the high trim models had clear lenses with amber bulbs. I don't know about the '72s.


Actually not, there was a change over during the 71 model year from clear lenses to amber lenses. All early build cars should have clear lenses and all late build cars should have amber.




IIRC the GTX is the only exception to this "rule" having clear lenses both early and late builds...correct?

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I don't know why you can't find any, repos came out back around 09. Unless they quit making them

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Originally Posted by 71birdJ68
I don't know why you can't find any, repos came out back around 09. Unless they quit making them





The clear and amber 71-2 front lenses/gaskets are still available from sources like Classic Ind, and PG Classics, Mike Ross at BEAParts might still have some left in his inventory as well, I'm sure YO has them as well....

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Year one has them (PN ML71 clear) listed as "arriving soon". Also have ML72 amber ones listed as arriving soon. That's why I was asking what other models would fit. Car currently has amber lenses but customer isn't that picky and I would love to get this wiring wrapped up before the snow flies.

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Thanks Dante, passing info on to my customer!


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Re: 1971 Road Runner front turn/park lens question. [Re: DAYCLONA] #2700889
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Originally Posted by DAYCLONA
Originally Posted by Butterscotch71
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Not exactly, at least in '71 the base models had amber lenses with clear bulbs, while the high trim models had clear lenses with amber bulbs. I don't know about the '72s.


Actually not, there was a change over during the 71 model year from clear lenses to amber lenses. All early build cars should have clear lenses and all late build cars should have amber.




IIRC the GTX is the only exception to this "rule" having clear lenses both early and late builds...correct?


Most of my restoration experience is with the GTX and all the '71 GTXs that I have had have come with the clear lenses. I certainly have seen and parted plenty of 71 RRs, most with amber but a few with clear. My notes do not indicate build dates, but they do indicate that the base model RRs make up the bulk of my notes and they were consistently with the amber lenses. I only have a few 71 RRs noted with the clear lenses and they were all highly optioned RRs. In particular, the Decor package RRs that I have notes on, all have the clear lenses. But since I only have a few, it is possible that they were coincidentally early builds.


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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
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Not exactly, at least in '71 the base models had amber lenses with clear bulbs, while the high trim models had clear lenses with amber bulbs. I don't know about the '72s.


Actually not, there was a change over during the 71 model year from clear lenses to amber lenses. All early build cars should have clear lenses and all late build cars should have amber.




IIRC the GTX is the only exception to this "rule" having clear lenses both early and late builds...correct?


Most of my restoration experience is with the GTX and all the '71 GTXs that I have had have come with the clear lenses. I certainly have seen and parted plenty of 71 RRs, most with amber but a few with clear. My notes do not indicate build dates, but they do indicate that the base model RRs make up the bulk of my notes and they were consistently with the amber lenses. I only have a few 71 RRs noted with the clear lenses and they were all highly optioned RRs. In particular, the Decor package RRs that I have notes on, all have the clear lenses. But since I only have a few, it is possible that they were coincidentally early builds.


My experience in looking at many survivor and unrestored 71 GTXs, road runners, and Satellites through the years, my own December built survivor low option road runner included, is that the clear early / amber late holds true for all models.


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Example: survivor, original owner GTX with May 71 build date

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Another: 71 GTX survivor, original owner late April build date

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My GTX was built late June 71 - has the Amber lens. All original.

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My survivor 71 Road Runner, December build date, no décor package

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Learning a LOT from this thread! Thanks all for the info and pics.
This car is far from being a survivor. If anything, it has only succeeded in surviving the junk yard. No fender tag, no build sheets, the trans doesn't even match the engine, let alone the body! LOL! Front frame rails, torsion bar section and part of the floor pan is all from donor cars. I have completely gutted the wiring and am in the process of a complete updated wiring install for my customer. I will pass all this information on to the owner and let him decide which direction we go from here. Again, thanks very much for all your help.


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Lots of good examples that support the early/late version of events.


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If anyone is interested in a very nice pair of amber lenses, I posted a set July09.

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