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Production junk #2698141
09/16/19 04:57 PM
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I hate working on old production junk... I'm putting rear brakes on my 06 Jeep Liberty
and while pulling the drums and the lugs off.. those crap caps are falling apart.. I might
have bang on a 18mm 12 point
socket and some heat.. I hate this old crap.. already have a new Dodge on order.. should
be here in a month... rant off(for now)
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Re: Production junk [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2698143
09/16/19 05:05 PM
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When you said old I figured 70's or 80's .Things are just a pita no matter what.


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Re: Production junk [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2698273
09/17/19 12:14 AM
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We had the same issue on my wife's 11 Grand Cherokee, I bought steel lugnuts and replaced all of those crap capped lugnuts they use


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Re: Production junk [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2698362
09/17/19 10:02 AM
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We have a lot of trouble with those stainless caps, too. They won't take any abuse. But, to be honest, the real source of the problem is either over-torquing them or using the wrong sized socket. Keep the torque under 100lbs and use the right socket and the issues will disappear. Unless the lug nuts have already been damaged.


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Re: Production junk [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2698375
09/17/19 10:17 AM
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Those capped lug nuts can drive a man to drink.

As much as many of us would prefer to get rid of them entirely...It sure seems like OEMs still love them and are making changes,
trying to make them work.

One of FCAs competitors made noticeable improvements to several of the capped type lugs over the last few months.
Several older part numbers were replaced with new ones, with the improvements called out on 2d prints/no getting around it.






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Re: Production junk [Re: ZIPPY] #2698402
09/17/19 11:17 AM
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I have replacement lug nuts.. I just have to get the old junk off now.. these were never over
torqued but I dont remember ever having the rear drums off this car... thanks guys
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Re: Production junk [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2698698
09/18/19 11:16 AM
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on the capped nuts that i have had to deal with, i just take a sharp chisel and carefully split the cap, then remove it.
use the closest fitting socket to remove the nut.
sometimes it takes a rather small chisel to get the cover split when the nut is recessed into the wheel.
and it's not fun.
beer

Re: Production junk [Re: moparx] #2698708
09/18/19 11:59 AM
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Some of the problems come from the uninitiated using a 12 point socket.
Recipe for failure.

Joe

Re: Production junk [Re: jlatessa] #2698846
09/19/19 01:01 AM
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I run into those caps, seems after a couple of winters the salt gets under the stainless and the corrosion swells them. I just split the cover and use an 18mm 6 point. Each car has a cheap breaker bar with both sockets.


It may be ugly, but it sure is slow.

Girls comb their hair in rear view mirrors and the boys try to look so hard....
Re: Production junk [Re: poboyengineering] #2699035
09/19/19 05:48 PM
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Mr P on a different note is your Liberty a 3.7 or diesel ? I love our little Diesel , it will pull a house.


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Re: Production junk [Re: Kindafast] #2699050
09/19/19 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Kindafast
Mr P on a different note is your Liberty a 3.7 or diesel ? I love our little Diesel , it will pull a house.


Its a 3.7.. been a good Jeep
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Re: Production junk [Re: cdwmotorsports] #2699062
09/19/19 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cdwmotorsports
We had the same issue on my wife's 11 Grand Cherokee, I bought steel lugnuts and replaced all of those crap capped lugnuts they use


Yep.Did the same on my Dakota.


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Re: Production junk [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2699071
09/19/19 07:46 PM
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I had to check to make sure this was still Unlawfl's Race & Engine. wave whistling laugh2

Re: Production junk [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2699189
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Originally Posted by MR_P_BODY
I hate working on old production junk... I'm putting rear brakes on my 06 Jeep Liberty
and while pulling the drums and the lugs off.. those crap caps are falling apart.. I might
have bang on a 18mm 12 point
socket and some heat.. I hate this old crap.. already have a new Dodge on order.. should
be here in a month... rant off(for now)
wave
With respect Mr. P, if you are sick of that stuff why did you just order another round of it? laugh2

Re: Production junk [Re: Hot 340] #2699325
09/20/19 06:39 PM
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Romeo MI
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2 reasons.. first is its the wifes lease vehicle and second is the she had 34 years at Chrysler and
I had 35 years.. on her stuff I dont do anything.. its all payed for
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