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New 4k lb winch test #2697435
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Smittybuilt CRX 4.0 4,000# winch on an open trailer 3600# car.[img]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBo8JTmpYL8[/img]

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Re: New 4k lb winch test [Re: Clanton] #2697484
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I'd prefer a larger-capacity winch, mainly because I've had to winch stuff on the trailer heavier than what I'd thought I would.
2 observations:
Never stand in the way the cable will fly if something breaks.
Header flanges that catch on the back edge of the trailer will really park a car, and the winch; always check the underside projections as you go.

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For what it's worth, I do the same thing with a Horror Freight 2500 lb ATV winch. I have it mounted on a thick steel plate with heavy chains to attach it to receiver hitch safety chain loops or the side of trailers. It plugs into the truck and has a nice long remote.

A few years ago I dropped a snatch block on it in case it has trouble dragging something heavy.


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I did try to stand to the side of the cable.This was my 1st time using this winch after having a 1500 lb winch in my inclosed trailer for 10 yrs I used.The header rubs at an elbow and I may adjust it Thank you !


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Another handy deal is to carry some 4 or 6 or even 8 foot lengths of 2x6 or 2x8 on the trailer, to soften the approach angle or to get the front or rear tires a bit higher to clear undercarriage stuff.
Works a charm, when the trailer's for the car in my pic but I needed to haul a REALLY low '57 Chevy tube-chassis car.
I also like to have my trailer ride as low as I can, to the extent it runs 14" tires.
I like to put my Dually's rear wheels on the highest ground as well, easier on everything that way.
For weather, think about housing the winch in a box of some sort, from a cheap WalMart plastic tool box or container, up to a pickup-truck tool box.
Cut a hole or two and the winch & battery will stay nice & dry and hidden from certain elements of society.

Re: New 4k lb winch test [Re: topside] #2697534
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I always thought that a pulley attached to the car and the cable run through it and back to an anchor point on the winch was easier on the winch.

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Originally Posted by stumpy
I always thought that a pulley attached to the car and the cable run through it and back to an anchor point on the winch was easier on the winch.
Yes a pully doubles the power but it is slower


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Why would it be slower? Isn't the winch winding cable at the same speed? work

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Originally Posted by stumpy
Why would it be slower? Isn't the winch winding cable at the same speed? work
Yes but you doubled the cable length by using a pulley.


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Made a pair of mods to my trailer winch...

first I put a switch on the winch's solonoid housing so I could trigger it w/o the winch control cable. Cause I went a couple hours from my house to pick up a truck and found I'd forgot the control cable....

Second, I cut the middle of my control cord and cobbled in a 25' extension cord. mine is a three wire, so a simple extension cord was perfect, epecially since the one I used had a thrashed plug on the end. Now I can steer the car or even get in it while it's pulled up on the trailer. Kinda nice to be able to push the brake pedal if you end up with the trailer deck nose-down.

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I used to weigh the cable to calm it down a bit in case something snaps

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Originally Posted by Bens_Coronets
Made a pair of mods to my trailer winch...

first I put a switch on the winch's solonoid housing so I could trigger it w/o the winch control cable. Cause I went a couple hours from my house to pick up a truck and found I'd forgot the control cable....

Second, I cut the middle of my control cord and cobbled in a 25' extension cord. mine is a three wire, so a simple extension cord was perfect, epecially since the one I used had a thrashed plug on the end. Now I can steer the car or even get in it while it's pulled up on the trailer. Kinda nice to be able to push the brake pedal if you end up with the trailer deck nose-down.
I have a 20'+ cord[phone line maybe] from my old 24' trailer I just sold[too big for my yard] and I think a remote came with the winch actually.I do have a battery cut off in line to the battery hot like would be on a race car.Loading a car going down hill would be a problem by yourself.I always have a wheel chuck just in case.

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I wan to locate the battery here and drop it down 5" have you done it like this?

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Kind of; I'll attach a photo. Taken before we did bedliner on the deck, ramps, & tops of fenders.
On mine I added a small deck forward of the car deck to accommodate a floorjack on the rt, fuel jugs on the left.
Battery box in the middle to the right of the winch cable you can barely see in the photo.
Winch lives inside the box I mentioned, with the tie-downs, chocks, race fluids & etc.
Box clears the hand winch for trailer tongue.
Wired in a quick-disconnect so my Dually charges the trailer battery when towing.

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Originally Posted by topside
Kind of; I'll attach a photo. Taken before we did bedliner on the deck, ramps, & tops of fenders.
On mine I added a small deck forward of the car deck to accommodate a floorjack on the rt, fuel jugs on the left.
Battery box in the middle to the right of the winch cable you can barely see in the photo.
Winch lives inside the box I mentioned, with the tie-downs, chocks, race fluids & etc.
Box clears the hand winch for trailer tongue.
Wired in a quick-disconnect so my Dually charges the trailer battery when towing.

Wow that is a short trailer but is all you need.Mine has a 18' deck.I don't like the big box on the tongue when most stuff will go in the bed of the truck anyways.


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Looks really short in the photo, but I've had my B-bodies on it.
LWB 70s Chevy truck JUST barely gets its rear tires on the deck, though... eek
I'm an organization freak, wanted the trailer & towing stuff self-contained, and the Dually's usually got car stuff & top box inside under a cap.

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Originally Posted by Clanton
I wan to locate the battery here and drop it down 5" have you done it like this?


My open trailer has a battery box under the tongue and the 12K winch mounted on top. The good thing is the battery is out of the way and the winch works great! The bad thing is the tongue weight is very heavy, you cannot move the trailer without hooking it up to a truck! frown


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Originally Posted by Clanton
I did try to stand to the side of the cable.This was my 1st time using this winch after having a 1500 lb winch in my inclosed trailer for 10 yrs I used.The header rubs at an elbow and I may adjust it Thank you !


You can use a short chain with hooks and hook it on the end of the cable and if the cable breaks it will fall to the ground. Also put the opening of the cable hook up that was if the hook breaks it goes straight to the ground as well.

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I learned a long time ago to tow cars with a trailer or truck winch from a strap around the rear end, not up front so it does not make the cable pull the front of the car down as it gets closer to the winch work scope twocents I also learned to not leave any tension on the winch cable after loading the cars, that is hard on the gears in the winch, don't ask me how I learned that whiney whistling


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