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Re: Throttle Cable Dilema
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Stumpy I wish it was as easy as brackets or an adapter. I had one set up by PRP which I scrapped when this started. I now have the AR engineering brackets which Andy recommended. My old cable will work stroke wise just to short to reach the mounts. I have a 528 Hemi mopar high rise singe carb Holley HP 4150 by Pro Systems.
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Re: Throttle Cable Dilema
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I have a 69 charger project. I need a longer cable jacket wise to reach the mounting points. I can get cables but the stroke is to short on what I have found. My stock cable would work stroke wise just to short for the mounts. I will post a couple pictures to show the differences. my original cable is the top one and The Mancini cc-371 is the lower one. As you can see my original measures from tip of jacket to ball 3 3/4 inches and the Mancini measures 2 3/4 inches. Somewhere there is a loss of an inch. Mancini offers no solution and they do not make custom cables. I did contact another less than friendly place and they claim there measurement is 1 15/16 inches which I do not believe is correct at all. My measurements are made with cable off car pulling to wide open throttle and as you can see from tip of jacket to ball. I am at a loss. Any input would be great. Thanks. They made one for me, also at the bottom of this picture it say they make custom cables ??
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Re: Throttle Cable Dilema
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I have a 69 charger project. I need a longer cable jacket wise to reach the mounting points. I can get cables but the stroke is to short on what I have found. My stock cable would work stroke wise just to short for the mounts. I will post a couple pictures to show the differences. my original cable is the top one and The Mancini cc-371 is the lower one. As you can see my original measures from tip of jacket to ball 3 3/4 inches and the Mancini measures 2 3/4 inches. Somewhere there is a loss of an inch. Mancini offers no solution and they do not make custom cables. I did contact another less than friendly place and they claim there measurement is 1 15/16 inches which I do not believe is correct at all. My measurements are made with cable off car pulling to wide open throttle and as you can see from tip of jacket to ball. I am at a loss. Any input would be great. Thanks. They made one for me, also at the bottom of this picture it say they make custom cables ?? When? When I called last week they said no. The guy also had no ideas as to what could be wrong with the cable.
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Re: Throttle Cable Dilema
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Imperial Services may make throttle cables.
Or try the Slant 6 cable, that's supposed to be quite long.
Failing that, it's either an adapter bracket or moving the attachment point lower on the throttle arm. Is imperial services still in business? Slant six has a longer stroke? I already am lower on the throttle arm. No adapter will help.
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Re: Throttle Cable Dilema
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Imperial Services may make throttle cables.
Or try the Slant 6 cable, that's supposed to be quite long.
Failing that, it's either an adapter bracket or moving the attachment point lower on the throttle arm. Is imperial services still in business? Slant six has a longer stroke? I already am lower on the throttle arm. No adapter will help. I dont understand why your car is different than all these other cars, is your accelerator pedal bent cracked ? something else going on here,
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Re: Throttle Cable Dilema
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09/13/19 01:29 AM
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A 1bbl Slant cable will have a fair amount of stroke because of the way it mounts. K car cables are another option.
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Re: Throttle Cable Dilema
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Imperial Services may make throttle cables.
Or try the Slant 6 cable, that's supposed to be quite long.
Failing that, it's either an adapter bracket or moving the attachment point lower on the throttle arm. Is imperial services still in business? Slant six has a longer stroke? I already am lower on the throttle arm. No adapter will help. I dont understand why your car is different than all these other cars, is your accelerator pedal bent cracked ? something else going on here, Look at the pictures of the cable and read what I wrote. The pedal is like new and restored. Its nothing to do with the car.
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Re: Throttle Cable Dilema
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Is it possible the new cable was miss made? Maybe you got lucky and got the only one that was wrong? If the manufacturer used the same length cable inside a longer housing, that could be your issue. Might be worth having someone measure a different new cable. Gene Thanks Gene. I called Mancini and they were polite and clueless. Any from AR engineering said exactly what you are saying the cables may be made wrong. I wish I had others to compare or measure.
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Re: Throttle Cable Dilema
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I just took my cable off & measured it, 2 3/4 distance like the one you have pictured.
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Re: Throttle Cable Dilema
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Pioneer brand from any parts store CA8668 try that & see how it is.
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Re: Throttle Cable Dilema
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I just took my cable off & measured it, 2 3/4 distance like the one you have pictured. Well if that's the case my original or at least I thought original must be off something else. If the Pioneer cable is stock the stroke must me 2 3/4. I wish I had others to measure. Like I said my original cable has the needed stroke its the jacket that's to short to reach the mounts.
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Re: Throttle Cable Dilema
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I have measured the three I have & they are all 2 3/4. one of them I just found in my old parts box, it is the original 1968 383 2bbl auto Dodge Charger, 2 3/4
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Re: Throttle Cable Dilema
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Without measuring mine the 2 3/4 looks right. Have you tried that one? I don't see how having more stroke available on the cable would help, the pedal itself is limited to close to the 2 3/4, although it probably really has a little closer to 3 inches in reality. But I don't think the pedal has 3 3/4 of travel if you're running a stock pedal.
What are you using for a throttle cable bracket?
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Have you checked to see if slant 6 cables are longer?
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