D.O.A.
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09/05/19 04:59 PM
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So I took my car ('72 Duster) to a local car show a few days ago. The car started up and RAN FINE with no issues at all, on the way to the show. After show was over, I started the car up, let it idle till it got to about 140-150 degrees, as I always do. When I left the showfield and got to the main road, I shifted gears, (it has a forward pattern manual valve body)...and once I started to shift into 2nd gear at 35-37 mph..all of a sudden car made a loud "POP"!!! noise, and it completely died, lost power steering, and had to quickly pull into a nearby parking lot. The noise from the car sounded alot like a loud fire-cracker going off!
Now... there is no electrical power at all,...no interior lights/headlights, although the electric fuel pump still runs when I turn it on. And I checked battery, (Optima Red Top gel style) it holds a charge. Engine is a 340 block stroked to 418 ci, with a solid mechanical cam, and adjustable 1.5 Indy roller rockers, an 850 cfm Demon chokeless carb, single plane Edelbrock Victor 340 intake. I am at a loss here...any help would be appreciated!
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Re: D.O.A.
[Re: Andrewh]
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09/05/19 06:46 PM
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it sounds like it popped & died at the same time. will it crank over jumping the starter relay?
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Re: D.O.A.
[Re: RapidRobert]
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09/05/19 09:15 PM
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Depending on where the POP came from (tailpipes?), take a look inside the distributor cap and at the mufflers: The cap to make sure the rotor & center electrode are fine & no carbon tracking. The mufflers to see if they look a bit swollen, or worse, from fuel lighting off inside.
Had a similar deal, though it didn't interrupt electrical power, on a vehicle a couple months ago. The center electrode in the cap had apparently dislodged & been hit by the rotor's tang, leading to a crossfire. It had been running perfectly until it started backfiring a few times. Oddly enough, it stopped backfiring and I drove it home (about 5 miles), during which time it ran fine, as though nothing had happened. Poking around, one muffler was swollen, the other side burst, and the cap & rotor looked like they'd been in a fireworks show.
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Re: D.O.A.
[Re: RoadRunnerLuva]
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09/05/19 11:28 PM
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So, the "pop": was it a backfire from the tailpipes, or from the carb, or somewhere else? If it was from the carb, I'd certainly check the PV, but I wouldn't expect it from an exhaust backfire. I can't imagine a backfire either from carb or exhaust to CAUSE valvetrain damage. In the old days, you could tell an exhaust valve was bad by a sustained light popping through the exhaust; engine would run, electrical would be unaffected. Popping/backfiring could be a symptom of a valvetrain problem as opposed to a cause, doesn't seem like that's your problem. Never had a scenario where an engine malfunction would kill the electrical system; I'm guessing something electrical is the root problem. You're gonna need to check a few things out, and report back.
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Re: D.O.A.
[Re: Andrewh]
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09/13/19 05:34 PM
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I think that might be coincidence. you blew the fuseable link to the main harness, shuts down all electrical including spark. excess fuel into the hot exhaust and pop like a shot.
if I were going to bet, you probably started over charging due to a bad VR, blew the fuseable link and it died.
but that is just a guess without doing tests with a voltmeter. After finally getting a little time to check out my car....upon closer inspection, of the bulkhead today, the fuseable link wire is literally burned in two! So That I assume caused the total shutdown of the car, when I was driving it. Now I need to figure out why the wires burned up. I will take Andrew's feedback, and check out the VR, and probably the alternator as well.
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