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Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: John_Kunkel] #2690074
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I really can't believe I wasted my time reading this thread, but I'll say it's darn entraining to say the least ,that so many do not have anything more constructive to do than try to make a mountain out of a mole hill. but then again I read it.

Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: Little Detroit] #2690187
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Originally Posted by Little Detroit

I really can't believe I wasted my time reading this thread, but I'll say it's darn entraining to say the least ,that so many do not have anything more constructive to do than try to make a mountain out of a mole hill. but then again I read it.


Yeah and it was your 426 HEMI numbered post too, something you can remember positively about a wasted post read. laugh2

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Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: Little Detroit] #2690208
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[quote=Little Detroit]
I really can't believe I wasted my time reading this thread, but I'll say it's darn entraining to say the least ,that so many do not have anything more constructive to do than try to make a mountain out of a mole hill. but then again I read it. [/quote

I'd say it was quick&sloppy. Same manner in which bumpers/doors/paint/etc were done back then. Geez: unless Chrysler actually had training on this or a written procedure. Sounds like it belongs in a Corvette forum.

Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: PhillyRag] #2690235
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thank you philly rag , pretty much the point I was sarcastically trying to point out. you would think common sense would come into play somewhere.

Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: John_Kunkel] #2690413
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Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
So, "correct" becomes "anal". Noted.

BTW, it's not impossible, I routinely do it on front suspension components that are the subject of this thread.


He asked about this part;

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the way it came from the factory in the mid 70`s


So are you are running a 1970's era factory in 2019 or just misreading the question?

Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2690607
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I understood the original question but merely commented on, what I consider, to be silliness. One strives to be "original" by installing cotter pins willy-nilly but has the chrome/paint redone to modern show standards.


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Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: John_Kunkel] #2690790
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Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
I understood the original question but merely commented on, what I consider, to be silliness. One strives to be "original" by installing cotter pins willy-nilly but has the chrome/paint redone to modern show standards.
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Where's "ROCK" these days? I want him to Sign my wheel well so that it's "factory line correct".
Maybe he still has the pencil he used back then.
Will that suffice?
I'm 99.99999% there.
Approaching the far outer reaches towards madness..

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Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: PhillyRag] #2690853
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Originally Posted by PhillyRag
Originally Posted by John_Kunkel
I understood the original question but merely commented on, what I consider, to be silliness. One strives to be "original" by installing cotter pins willy-nilly but has the chrome/paint redone to modern show standards.
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Where's "ROCK" these days? I want him to Sign my wheel well so that it's "factory line correct".
Maybe he still has the pencil he used back then.
Will that suffice?
I'm 99.99999% there.
Approaching the far outer reaches towards madness..


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Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: 62maxwgn] #2690861
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anyone know the size of the factory cotter pins i need to buy some. thanks

Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: moparpro] #2690866
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all kidding aside, i once thought corvette dudes were fanatics when it came to restorations, but we have them beat by a country mile !
good or bad, our restorations are tons better. up
now where is my tank of NOS tire air ? i know it's here somewhere......... shruggy
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Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: moparpro] #2690874
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Originally Posted by moparpro
anyone know the size of the factory cotter pins i need to buy some. thanks


Better be careful,90 % of cotter pins are made in china ! eek

Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2690892
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My vote for thread of the year!


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Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: BloFish] #2690896
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Originally Posted by BloFish
My vote for thread of the year!

laugh2 I just bend it back over the stud/bolt/spindle/whatever then cut the protruding meat ripper off flush with the nut. It ain't brain surgery.


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Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: Guitar Jones] #2690905
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I'm going to assume that you (Mopars4ever) purchased or have the correct 3 prong castle nuts to use on your suspension components, its kind of pointless getting the cotter pin details correct if your using the wrong 6 prong castle nuts that come with all the aftermarket ball joints, tie rod ends, ect...

Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: 76orangewagon] #2690931
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76 Yes, i do. NOS upper and lower arms. NOS idler and pitman arms. NOS torsion bar end bushing. Just got a NOS upper ball joint boot 2269127 that was missing from a member here. So it`s not pointless to me but maybe to most. Honestly, I really don`t care if someone feels its trivial or not. Some people feel a need to express their way of thinking all the time around here. I feel it`s trivia when someone needs to express what they feel is trivial or not. Why do they waste their time? Dunno??? I`m getting some good info even with all the ones trying to ruin someones post. Some are proud of their work and some are proud of how their mouth works.

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Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: 62maxwgn] #2690932
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Originally Posted by 62maxwgn
Originally Posted by moparpro
anyone know the size of the factory cotter pins i need to buy some. thanks


Better be careful,90 % of cotter pins are made in china ! eek
I have a box of NOS mopar pins. I`m not sure of the size. I will have to check. Update: These are the ones I have. Are these correct? If you need some and they will work for you let me know.

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Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: mopars4ever] #2690977
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OMG The answer to the question is right there on the cotter pin box; HAMMERLOCK !!! hammer

Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: A12] #2691027
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The green box of pins are not NOS, those were sold at mopar parts stores and are relabeled pik-a-nut, originals are shorter, and do not have the bend at the end. The wrench rounding them off sure seems to make them look right. The little stuff matters on a restoration in my opinion, Johns way is better, but would stick out like a sore thumb on a restoration. When I pulled my superbird apart you could tell the idler arm was changed, correct mopar part, but wrong pin installed nicely, it stuck out. I would install the pins right and nice on everything except a restoration. Believe me, if you install the pins nicely on a car with all the proper colors, boots and plating, the mopar vin crowd would point out your "mistake". You can't win.

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Originally Posted by 4406bbl
The green box of pins are not NOS, those were sold at mopar parts stores and are relabeled pik-a-nut, originals are shorter, and do not have the bend at the end. The wrench rounding them off sure seems to make them look right. The little stuff matters on a restoration in my opinion, Johns way is better, but would stick out like a sore thumb on a restoration. When I pulled my superbird apart you could tell the idler arm was changed, correct mopar part, but wrong pin installed nicely, it stuck out. I would install the pins right and nice on everything except a restoration. Believe me, if you install the pins nicely on a car with all the proper colors, boots and plating, the mopar vin crowd would point out your "mistake". You can't win.


Made a mistake here, I should have said those pins are not assembly line correct, they could well be NOS.

Re: bending cotter pins on tie rod ends and ball joints [Re: mopars4ever] #2691050
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Originally Posted by mopars4ever
76 Yes, i do. NOS upper and lower arms. NOS idler and pitman arms. NOS torsion bar end bushing. Just got a NOS upper ball joint boot 2269127 that was missing from a member here. So it`s not pointless to me but maybe to most. Honestly, I really don`t care if someone feels its trivial or not. Some people feel a need to express their way of thinking all the time around here. I feel it`s trivia when someone needs to express what they feel is trivial or not. Why do they waste their time? Dunno??? I`m getting some good info even with all the ones trying to ruin someones post. Some are proud of their work and some are proud of how their mouth works.


Don’t ever let someone’s opinion stop you from getting the details right- I’m doing another OE restoration right now (#7) and am fanatical about the way it’s going- but in the end it’s my car and satisfies me and that’s all that matters...

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