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Re: Electrical Expert Needed ASAP [Re: Andrewh] #2689638
08/20/19 08:19 AM
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My gut is still telling me there is an issue with the alternator. But I had it tested twice by 2 different shops and they said it was good. The unit is a Powermaster 90 amp built out of the old round back case. A buddy had one on his car that failed him on the road 3 times and the alternator still tested good. He replaced the alternator with a new one and never had a problem again. I believe the spike fried the tachometer.

Re: Electrical Expert Needed ASAP [Re: maximus] #2689653
08/20/19 08:52 AM
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The FSM has some pretty decent alternator T/S guides and rebuilding your own isn't too bad.

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You might be having an intermittent full field going on, does the ammeter peg out at all?

Re: Electrical Expert Needed ASAP [Re: maximus] #2689877
08/20/19 10:11 PM
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I agree with Sniper.
The ammeter will often reveal alot.
It must be observed in conjection with the situation as it reacts to current flowing.

Having a handheld voltmeter will also help considerably.
Measurements from it are also situational. For example, measuring the voltage at the alternator output stud ( to ground ) at slow idle might be different than fast idle or higher rpm.

Using the ammeter together with voltmeter readings can be very powerful combination for troubleshooting.

I don't know what Powermaster has done to get a roundback to produce 90 amps,
Checking the basics of any alternator are pretty easy. Opening up a roundback one must be a little more careful than a squareback, but neither are difficult. Keep the stator together with the rectifiers and nothing will get broken. Leave the pulley on. No reason to remove it unless the rotor or the bearings on that end need replacing.


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Front and rear housing (aka end shields) seperated. Rotor and pulley stay with front half. Stator stays with rear half.

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2. On roundbacks; the stator is soldered to the diodes, and the output stud (BATT) is directly attached to the capacitor (cylinder toward top of photo). This must be insulated from the casing or you know what will happen!

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3. Brushes. Its better to remove the brushes first if you are opening up the alternator. Pre-70 alternator casings have a ground brush holder cast in. Later alternators use an insulated ground brush as the '70 up regulators control the ground connection.

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Re: Electrical Expert Needed ASAP [Re: Mattax] #2690101
08/21/19 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mattax
I I don't know what Powermaster has done to get a roundback to produce 90 amps


Concur. Must be some super duper stator.

OE alternators were typically 37amp, 50/60 amp for A/C cars. When I rebuilt my 70, I replaced the OE stator with a 50amp NOS (to help supply a few more gizmos in my RR).

Everything seems to point to an intermittent alternator issue. Try another reman unit.

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