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Just got the six pack/carbs mounted on the 440 in the car (70’ Bee) for the first time. With the air cleaner and cover on there’s interference with the hood, raises the back of the hood about 1/2” when it’s closed. Intake is an Eddy CH6. Is this a taller intake than the stock cast one? Does anyone have dimensions for big block six pack intakes?


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Originally Posted by busboy
Just got the six pack/carbs mounted on the 440 in the car (70’ Bee) for the first time. With the air cleaner and cover on there’s interference with the hood, raises the back of the hood about 1/2” when it’s closed. Intake is an Eddy CH6. Is this a taller intake than the stock cast one? Does anyone have dimensions for big block six pack intakes?




The RB intakes are the same height "factory" or aftermarket replacement, I'll assume you have the twin scoop hood?, and not the powerdome?, is the air cleaner hitting a brace under hood?, running an under hood pad?


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I can tell you that 1970 superbirds with 6bbl or hemis have the center underhood brace factory butched out of the hood. It is still real close on a bird, if someone leaves a wingnut laying on the aircleaner it will dent the hood.

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I should add for those that do not know, superbirds use a coronet flat hood.

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Thanks Dayclona, it is a factory power bulge hood and it is hitting a brace under the hood.


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4406bbl, did the factory cut that brace or did owners have to make that “modification”?


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Ok, going to have to cut mine then, can anyone post a pic of where the brace is cut?


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Ya, factory for sure. It was a rough sharp edged job, I might have pics somewhere.

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Not the best pic, but the whole center brace is cut out, circular shape at ends like it was cut with snips or power shears. Mine was clean with no glue there. 4bbl sbirds have this brace intact.

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Originally Posted by 4406bbl
Not the best pic, but the whole center brace is cut out, circular shape at ends like it was cut with snips or power shears. Mine was clean with no glue there. 4bbl sbirds have this brace intact.


I must be missing something here,original 6bbl bird,original hood,I have no clearance issues,no cut bracing and what is there is not even close. confused

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Originally Posted by 62maxwgn
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Not the best pic, but the whole center brace is cut out, circular shape at ends like it was cut with snips or power shears. Mine was clean with no glue there. 4bbl sbirds have this brace intact.


I must be missing something here,original 6bbl bird,original hood,I have no clearance issues,no cut bracing and what is there is not even close. confused


Look real close 62, in the center where the peak of the hood is there was a brace front to rear covering that peak, you can see the trimming on the front side of your hood, where the round spot is in the center yours is trimmed. 4bbl birds have about a 4"wide brace there. Thanks 62, I knew you would come thru with a great pic. Now that you know you will be checking out sbird hoods at the shows.

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Originally Posted by 62maxwgn
Originally Posted by 4406bbl
Not the best pic, but the whole center brace is cut out, circular shape at ends like it was cut with snips or power shears. Mine was clean with no glue there. 4bbl sbirds have this brace intact.


I must be missing something here,original 6bbl bird,original hood,I have no clearance issues,no cut bracing and what is there is not even close. confused



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Originally Posted by 4406bbl
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Not the best pic, but the whole center brace is cut out, circular shape at ends like it was cut with snips or power shears. Mine was clean with no glue there. 4bbl sbirds have this brace intact.


I must be missing something here,original 6bbl bird,original hood,I have no clearance issues,no cut bracing and what is there is not even close. confused


Look real close 62, in the center where the peak of the hood is there was a brace front to rear covering that peak, you can see the trimming on the front side of your hood, where the round spot is in the center yours is trimmed. 4bbl birds have about a 4"wide brace there. Thanks 62, I knew you would come thru with a great pic. Now that you know you will be checking out sbird hoods at the shows.


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Originally Posted by 4406bbl
Originally Posted by 62maxwgn
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Not the best pic, but the whole center brace is cut out, circular shape at ends like it was cut with snips or power shears. Mine was clean with no glue there. 4bbl sbirds have this brace intact.


I must be missing something here,original 6bbl bird,original hood,I have no clearance issues,no cut bracing and what is there is not even close. confused


Look real close 62, in the center where the peak of the hood is there was a brace front to rear covering that peak, you can see the trimming on the front side of your hood, where the round spot is in the center yours is trimmed. 4bbl birds have about a 4"wide brace there. Thanks 62, I knew you would come thru with a great pic. Now that you know you will be checking out sbird hoods at the shows.




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There you go, proven wrong again. up All I know is every 6bbl bird I have been around is cut, hemi bird a buddy had was cut, 4bbl birds were not. His hood will not close, remove the brace and it will. It is also real smart to tie the engine down on these, put some clay on the air cleaner and close the hood to see why.

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Originally Posted by 4406bbl
There you go, proven wrong again. up All I know is every 6bbl bird I have been around is cut, hemi bird a buddy had was cut, 4bbl birds were not. His hood will not close, remove the brace and it will. It is also real smart to tie the engine down on these, put some clay on the air cleaner and close the hood to see why.


Went back and looked again,absolutely no sign of any cutting on inner structure,it is as stamped including the section under the added on top extension. shruggy

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Originally Posted by 62maxwgn
Originally Posted by 4406bbl
There you go, proven wrong again. up All I know is every 6bbl bird I have been around is cut, hemi bird a buddy had was cut, 4bbl birds were not. His hood will not close, remove the brace and it will. It is also real smart to tie the engine down on these, put some clay on the air cleaner and close the hood to see why.


Went back and looked again,absolutely no sign of any cutting on inner structure,it is as stamped including the section under the added on top extension. shruggy



No your hood is not as stamped, or it would look like the green hemi hood, or the yellow 4bbl hood, you cannot see the center peak on those. I can see the cut at the front center of the orange hood plain as day in your pic. Your hood has no center bar. I found this out fixing a 6bbl superbird in my bodyshop in 1981, got a nos hood, had to cut the bar. I assumed all hemis were done, but obviously not. It is one of those things I usually keep my mouth shut about to avoid the fight. I got to repaint that hood back then because it would not close when the car was done, you do not forget stuff like that. Its all good its how we learn.

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I can tell you a 440-6 BARELY fits under a 70 charger hood. It is up into the padding. I would think that it should fit. Do you have the proper base plate? It needs to be a drop base.


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Well. I looked up close at my original 6 pack bird hood and I have to say the brace is cut out. HOWEVER, in Bills defense, it is very hard to tell. Mine was obviously cut before it was put together as it had factory seam sealer sticking out. It was so nicely done it almost looks stamped. If it was stamped, it would have a beveled edge.

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It is so easy to see. It is screaming at you. The bevel is gone and it’s not straight. Now there are not saw and teeth marks from a hacksaw, but is so obvious that it’s been cut.

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