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Re: I'm glad this isn't my home track, or car. [Re: J_BODY] #2683921
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I never heard of a fuel system recall and I worked in the fuel lab for
35 years
wave


.... laugh2 well there was the plastic 3.5 fuel rail (LH) debacle that became a recall. That burned a few down. A few years back we had a few Jeep Wranglers towed in with failed fuel lines at the rail on 3.6 engines, and there’s all sorts of videos etc with them burning.

Nothing surprises me anymore with cars....




Chrysler would call it a "Thermal Event".

Back in 2007 when I was on the 2009 Ram Launch Team I brought up a possible fire problem with the 3.7 V-6 in the Rams and was told that it had to be written up as a "Possible Thermal Event" so the engineers could decide if it was a future assembly line issue.


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Re: I'm glad this isn't my home track, or car. [Re: pittsburghracer] #2683962
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Thanks for posting that video John. Wow there is a whole lot of stupid going on there

Note to self: Thank my local track guys more often



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Re: I'm glad this isn't my home track, or car. [Re: Just-a-dart] #2683998
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Someone show him how to do a burnout so maybe next time he doesn't break something coming out of the water. Unfortunately TNT's are infested with types like this nowadays.


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Re: I'm glad this isn't my home track, or car. [Re: moparacer] #2684037
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i thought the 3 Stooges had passed on to happier hunting grounds, but it looks like there has been a bunch of REAL stooges taking their place[s] ! panic
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Re: I'm glad this isn't my home track, or car. [Re: moparx] #2684062
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Track dude needed to take control of the situation. Get the guy out of the car and away from it. Get the fire taken care of. Instead he acts like a dick and no one else steps up to deal with it. He is the #1 jackass in the situation. Track owner/manager needs to get him off the property fast, before he gets the whole operation sued.


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Re: I'm glad this isn't my home track, or car. [Re: CMcAllister] #2684070
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It seemed like the DEMON driver triggered the situation with his snappy attitude, but I agree, the track official should have made sure that the guy got out safely first and then dealt with the fire. At that point, he could have had the driver thrown out for mouthing off in such a delicate situation.

Both were hot heads that met on the skillet which was hot already and cooler minds did not prevail.

At one point, it seems like the driver wanted the car to burn baby burn so that it could be good footage and up the likes on his instagram followers and allowers.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, a really cool car of our times nearly burnt down at the stake.

Re: I'm glad this isn't my home track, or car. [Re: CMcAllister] #2684085
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Originally Posted by CMcAllister
Track dude needed to take control of the situation. Get the guy out of the car and away from it. Get the fire taken care of. Instead he acts like a dick and no one else steps up to deal with it. He is the #1 jackass in the situation. Track owner/manager needs to get him off the property fast, before he gets the whole operation sued.



Wrong. The starter should have smashed the driver in the face and THEN let the car burn to the ground on the property. If that bald headed moron wood have talked to me that way, he would have had a face full of fire extinguisher. Then all you guys on here would have been pissed off at the starter, and claim the scungy driver should sue the track.

Screw that dude. He has NO BUSINESS EVER being at another track.

Time to stop defending retards and let assholes have their own ways and suffer the consequences of their own ignorance.

And BTW, where was the track owner or manager? He SHOULd have been down there kicking that bald guys ass.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
Re: I'm glad this isn't my home track, or car. [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2684086
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Originally Posted by fullmetaljacket
It seemed like the DEMON driver triggered the situation with his snappy attitude, but I agree, the track official should have made sure that the guy got out safely first and then dealt with the fire. At that point, he could have had the driver thrown out for mouthing off in such a delicate situation.

Both were hot heads that met on the skillet which was hot already and cooler minds did not prevail.

At one point, it seems like the driver wanted the car to burn baby burn so that it could be good footage and up the likes on his instagram followers and allowers.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, a really cool car of our times nearly burnt down at the stake.



Piss on that car. Let it burn. Right to the ground. Just drag it out of the way. Then document everything, including that video and when the insurance company investigates what happened, the ignorant owner will lose the car. The car doesn't mean a thing. Who cares? Dirt balls like that need their comeuppance.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
Re: I'm glad this isn't my home track, or car. [Re: madscientist] #2684100
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After watching the footage again, it still showed that hot heads prevailed over cool.
A little case of the hi-tech blues was a culprit here as well.

How could a car not shut off with the able body owner/driver in the cockpit?
Too much hi-tech and you have what they call a runaway train. Those cars should come with an exterior "MANUAL" cut off switch just like any one of our much older low tech cars.

I'd be really pissed if I couldn't control a cars ability to shut off especially when there was no violent crash or turn over.



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Re: I'm glad this isn't my home track, or car. [Re: CMcAllister] #2684137
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Originally Posted by CMcAllister
Track dude needed to take control of the situation. Get the guy out of the car and away from it. Get the fire taken care of. Instead he acts like a dick and no one else steps up to deal with it. He is the #1 jackass in the situation. Track owner/manager needs to get him off the property fast, before he gets the whole operation sued.


This.
Face full of fire extinguisher would make you co-defendant.
The track personnel have one job in this situation , and it has nothing to do with personalities , language , tax bracket of the car owner or misunderstandings.
The car would not shut off apparently.
A fire hose to the air intake would rectify that in a hurry.
But when an emergency situation occurs , safety is now on the front burner.
That track worker should find a new hobby.
And I did that for neigh on a decade in staging and on the line.
There is not enough money involved to call it a job , but you can still behave like a professional.

Re: I'm glad this isn't my home track, or car. [Re: tubtar] #2684172
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I've done it as well. And when something goes sideways, you jump on it and deal with it NOW. You don't argue with stupid people, you don't stand there and play pocket pool. You get idiots who aren't supposed to be there out of the way and take care of it.


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Re: I'm glad this isn't my home track, or car. [Re: CMcAllister] #2684177
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What an awful crew at that Track. The most Unprofessional GROUP of Assholes I have seen in a long time. You would have thought someone would have stepped up no matter how frustrated or ignorant the driver was. There was no urgency only arrogance. Sad to see people agree with how the track crew acted or in this case DID NOT act....

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Re: I'm glad this isn't my home track, or car. [Re: QuickBpBp] #2684188
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These cars generally won't shut off in drive. The trans control module for an 8 speed is internal to the trans. It looks like the trans was the area the fire started. If the TCM was damaged it may have inhibited the engine from being shut off. Either way the track crews first concern should be for participants safety, then to stop the fire. There should never be emotions that over come these duties. Whether the driver was in the wrong or not. I'm not defending the driver either. Hell if that was my car I would've grabbed the extinguisher myself.
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If I was a bystander I'd have grabbed an extinguisher. I mean, really ?!
That A-hole Contest messed up not only the car, but the track, and the the other particpants' day.
Track owner needs to fire that crew and put some actual men in their place.
Car owner needs to find a hobby he's capable of doing.

Re: I'm glad this isn't my home track, or car. [Re: pittsburghracer] #2684207
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If I'm at the track, and an official says I have a fire, my ass is getting out of the car NOW!!!


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Originally Posted by JERICOGTX
If I'm at the track, and an official says I have a fire, my ass is getting out of the car NOW!!!



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Re: I'm glad this isn't my home track, or car. [Re: pittsburghracer] #2684361
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This is my home track, from my prospective the A-hole driver is the biggest problem but I also agree that the starter and rest of the track crew should have done what they are there for and get the fire put out instead of letting pride get in the way. To me this is exactly why cars like that SHOULD NOT be available to the general public, just because you can afford it doesn’t mean you can handle the responsibility of driving it. twocents

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Not one person there even remotely dressed to open a hood on a burning car.... raced at many tracks that way, and a couple that were very well equipped. Would-a should-a..... fire suppression system.

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I try to stay in front of safety requirements. I have seen way too often, that these new "Fly by wire" cars will not shut off for any given reason, regardless of gear. I would have a rear mounted override switch in the back, just like NHRA requires. Maybe also, my own fire extinguisher. But I still agree that getting the driver out of the way and putting out the fire should have been primary concerns.

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So many of these cars have outpaced the rules as far as the basic safety requirements at specific ET breaks. Shields, roll bars & cages, shut off switches, etc. NHRA is doing a balancing act so track operators can let them run.

Just wait until they start wrecking 9 second electric cars. We ain't seen nothing yet.


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