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Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: LAD 524] #2679633
07/21/19 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by LAD 524
I wanna try out this combo for fun once I get my new hood. Ive prepped up a pair of #6322 TQs with some tweaks, freshened them up and put in new throttle shaft bushing.

VERY interested to see how they will dial in on the X ram laugh...


LAD 5241: Did you replace the shaft bushings yourself, or sent it out?

If yourself, can you provide the pertinent part # info and any procedure details? Thanks!

Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: feets] #2679641
07/21/19 07:29 AM
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I believe the TQ can be tuned to just about any combination. However, having said that, the more radical you get in the cam selection the harder of a time you are going to have in trying to get the card to respond to the engine vacum signal changes.

My base for this statement: I've been using these things for years and currently run the aftermarket 9800 series (the one with the attached electric choke on the side). It took some work to get the idle mixture screws to actually respond, so literally the engine runs differently as you turn the screws. Previously in my combo (238/244 @0.050 duration hydraulic flat tappet cam) only the idle speed screw did anything. That cam is pulling only about 6-7" of vacum though.

Dave Emanuel's book is a great reference if you are new to these carbs and are going to work on them (ISBN 0-931472-11-3).

I have a nice Carter tech book on this carb, but it's too big to attach, so IM me and we can exchange through email.

Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: feets] #2681620
07/26/19 03:42 PM
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Spread bore or EFI, why not both:
Sniper EFI Quadrajet

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I'm thinking of going with one of these on the 440 in my wagon, likely on top of a Holley SD intake.


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Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: BlueGhost] #2681635
07/26/19 04:42 PM
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Nice except for the $1800 price with pump and extras.

Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: stumpy] #2681641
07/26/19 04:53 PM
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To youz apimp who like the sounds that Plastic Fantastic producers ... you need that new and improved air valve tool to get the bestest tUnEs ! smoke

Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: stumpy] #2681642
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Originally Posted by stumpy
Nice except for the $1800 price with pump and extras.


And it probably don't have that TQ howl

Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: Sniper] #2681654
07/26/19 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by stumpy
Nice except for the $1800 price with pump and extras.


And it probably don't have that TQ howl


That's an interesting question.

I has always assumed it was a function of the LARGE secondaries. So I wouldn't be surprised if this produced a similar effect...Q-Jets had some of that. But nothing barks quite like a TQ.


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Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: DynoDave] #2681662
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Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: BlueGhost] #2681675
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Even IF that Sniper EFI delivered any real benefit over a Street Demon, there is no way it can possibly deliver 6 times the benefits over the Street Demon which is how much more it costs. Plus the extra labor.

I have said this before, The only guys that dismiss the Street Demon for our mostly stock and mostly street cars, are guys that haven't tried one.


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Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: DaveRS23] #2681678
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Originally Posted by DaveRS23
Even IF that Sniper EFI delivered any real benefit over a Street Demon, there is no way it can possibly deliver 6 times the benefits over the Street Demon which is how much more it costs. Plus the extra labor.

I have said this before, The only guys that dismiss the Street Demon for our mostly stock and mostly street cars, are guys that haven't tried one.


Or wants the TQ sound.

Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: Sniper] #2681713
07/26/19 11:10 PM
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The AVS2 (650CFM) I just installed on a 383 does a pretty good impersonation of a T-quad's secondaries-open sound.
I'll do a separate thread on it for anyone interested.

Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: Sniper] #2681765
07/27/19 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniper
Originally Posted by DaveRS23
Even IF that Sniper EFI delivered any real benefit over a Street Demon, there is no way it can possibly deliver 6 times the benefits over the Street Demon which is how much more it costs. Plus the extra labor.

I have said this before, The only guys that dismiss the Street Demon for our mostly stock and mostly street cars, are guys that haven't tried one.


Or wants the TQ sound.


One of the things that I dig most about my old stuff is that they're not efi, computer controlled, technology dependant. Sure, there are times when I gotta pop the hood to get one started but I'll take that over wrestling with a smart phone app any day. As for something that sounds like a TQ, I'm thinking the thing that comes closest is a TQ.

Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: ] #2681863
07/27/19 05:28 PM
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Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: BigBlockMopar] #2681874
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I like this one

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Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: BigBlockMopar] #2681970
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WHERE are those T shirts ?? grin

Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #2681971
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I like this one


I got a dozen or so of these off eBay some years back grin

Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: Diplomat360] #2681973
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[quote LAD 5241: Did you replace the shaft bushings yourself, or sent it out?

If yourself, can you provide the pertinent part # info and any procedure details? Thanks! [/quote]

Yep bought a kit with the ream and the bushes. Disassemble the carb, and you can use the ream in reverse in the drill chuck and the straight shaft on the ream is used as a guide in the throttle bores to enable you to ream it straight and true.

Then loctite the new bushes and drive them in - I used a bolt with the correct OD and the threads cut off to use it as a bush driver.

Worked like a charm up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvHIWqdJX8s

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-8-Throttle-Shaft-Bushing-repair-Worn-Carburetor-contain-Reamer-16-pcs-Bushing/232906517346?hash=item363a4f6b62:g:JXQAAOSwFSNcAdk3

Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: LAD 524] #2681979
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How much slop was there in that shaft ?

Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: dOc !] #2681981
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Not huge slop Doc, but it was there; I tested it and it had a whistle at idle that was the shaft for sure.

The shafts themselves were in good shape however.

Re: I really want the Thermoquad sound but should I? [Re: LAD 524] #2681985
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Throttle shaft slop is not usually a problem unless the carburetor is a high mileage unit or someone used throttle springs with too much pressure causing the bores to become egg-shaped, typically most evident on the driver side. This is why my process includes re-bushed bores with every carb, its a simple procedure to eliminate any potential slop issues.

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