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Can someone ID this trans for me? #2681045
07/24/19 10:13 PM
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Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Hi Guys,

Another newbie question here..

Looking at picking up this used trans. supposed to be a small block 727. Kinda looking to upgrade the 904 behind my 318 for a while, its starting to slip.

Is it a 727 for a small block? What should I check out before i pay for it. supposedly rebuilt 4 years ago and has been sitting on garage floor as shown since then.

How can I tell what year its from and if it will work behind my 318? in my 69 Plymouth B-Body..

Thanks
Plaz


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Re: Can someone ID this trans for me? [Re: plazomat] #2681061
07/24/19 11:02 PM
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Can you get a picture of the bell housing opening so we can see the bolt pattern and starter position?

Re: Can someone ID this trans for me? [Re: stumpy] #2681067
07/24/19 11:33 PM
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What Stumpy is looking for. Pulled this pic off the internet. Note the measurements and starter location.

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Re: Can someone ID this trans for me? [Re: SattyNoCar] #2681103
07/25/19 06:47 AM
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Look on the flat spot on the drivers side pan rail and give us the number that starts with PK.

Re: Can someone ID this trans for me? [Re: fastmark] #2681191
07/25/19 10:42 AM
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easiest way to tell a small block 727 from a big block is shown by the posted picture.
a big block starter [nose locator] is located at the 3 o'clock position, while a small block starter [nose locator] is at slightly past 4 o'clock. no measuring required.
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Re: Can someone ID this trans for me? [Re: plazomat] #2681202
07/25/19 11:07 AM
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It is a small block 727 with the bracket for a console shifter.

The last photo shown has the starter lump visible. A keen eye will note the sharp corner on the lump. B/RB provisions were rounded there.


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Re: Can someone ID this trans for me? [Re: plazomat] #2681241
07/25/19 12:37 PM
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The stamped VIN 2Fxxxxx makes it from a '72 model year Dart or Valiant built at the Newark plant.


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Re: Can someone ID this trans for me? [Re: John_Kunkel] #2681248
07/25/19 12:54 PM
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1972 model year production at Newark (2F) was all C-body

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Re: Can someone ID this trans for me? [Re: 6bblgt] #2681249
07/25/19 12:59 PM
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Trans will work you will need a drive shaft

Re: Can someone ID this trans for me? [Re: GVH] #2681414
07/25/19 09:23 PM
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Hi Guys,

I got the seller to snap a few more for me...

PN PK3515844 3615 0758 - hunting the google looks like a late 1971/72 trans - behind a 360 engine - small block 727..........standard(& police/taxi 318)

I think exactly what I am looking for - are these stronger/better than the pre 1972 variants.

."a longer bushing was introduced into the 727 front clutch retainer which necessitated changing the clutch retainers, the reaction shaft support, the cast iron seal rings, the rear clutch piston retainer and the transmission assembly numbers"

Plaz

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Last edited by plazomat; 07/25/19 09:30 PM.
Re: Can someone ID this trans for me? [Re: plazomat] #2681470
07/26/19 02:11 AM
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Why not rebuild your 904? It is more than strong enough. Every smallblock Stock and super Stock car runs them and some guys have adapted the 904 guts to the 727 case for big blocks. If you put the 727 in your car you will also need a drive shaft and i think converter.


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