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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: rhad] #2678131
07/16/19 11:21 PM
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new cap rotor wires can sensor,it still died!!,new fuel pressure checker,35# up to 40 when you rev it up
then i noticed that the drain for the ac was dripping right on part of the crank sensor plug!!! WHOOOO!!,tomorrows project.....inspect and move those wires!!,ran for a hour in the shop,no problem?????????


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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: rhad] #2678222
07/17/19 09:41 AM
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Still following along. Good luck with it. luck



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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: I_bleed_MOPAR] #2678490
07/17/19 11:30 PM
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looked at and moved the crank sensor wires and plug,no corrosion detected,hasnt died in the last 2 runs???????
whats left to do????fuel filter is old,but no signs of restriction,revs good pressure stays good ethanol should take care of water in the gas,if any???,as ive said before,it might run good for a couple days then die,then restart


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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: rhad] #2680661
07/23/19 08:04 PM
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My '91 had a bout of random death a couple years ago. No sputtering--it was just like you turned off the key. After trying most everything mentioned above, I changed the hall effect pickup in the distributor, and that fixed it. I now ride with a spare in the glovebox.


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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: 2Bad360sfromNC] #2680737
07/23/19 11:23 PM
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i have changed the hall effect in the dist,it still died on me!,new fuel filter on the way!


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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: rhad] #2681447
07/25/19 11:39 PM
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new filter this evening,test drive tomorrow!!,keep your fingers crossed!


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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: rhad] #2681455
07/26/19 12:05 AM
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luck


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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: SattyNoCar] #2681688
07/26/19 09:32 PM
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Well don't keep us in suspense. How did it do?

Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: stumpy] #2681710
07/26/19 10:52 PM
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went for a morning cruise,did not die,no idea if its fixed or just being nice for a bit??,oh yeah,the speedometer didnt work,must of done something when replacing the filter,i need to drive for a few days to be sure,the 27 yr old rubber fuel lines were mushy(my problem??),so i shortened one quite a bit and cut a lot off of the other one and spliced in a longer piece to make it reach the filter


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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: rhad] #2681721
07/27/19 12:28 AM
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Mushy? I wonder if the ethanol gas is attacking the lines? 27yr old lines should be hard and cracked, not mushy.

Might want to go thru and replace anywhere that has old rubber line. Make sure the new line is ethanol resistant.

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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: SattyNoCar] #2681802
07/27/19 12:58 PM
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the fuel injection lines have a liner so im ok there,HOWEVER,it ran about 150 feet this morning and died,im gonna fix up a fuel pressure gauge so i can moniter it while driving,if its NOT the fuel pump im stumped big time!!!


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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: rhad] #2682113
07/28/19 07:41 PM
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hooked up the fuel pressure gauge,drove about 20 miles or so over various roads,no die,pressure steady at mid 30's
still stumped!!
gonna leave the gauge hooked up till it dies,as the saying went when i worked at the rabies lab,a negative test is never positive!!!!!!


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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: rhad] #2683142
07/31/19 03:58 PM
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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: I_bleed_MOPAR] #2683282
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gave it a break today,more to come


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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: rhad] #2684056
08/03/19 01:53 PM
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My 1995 Ram caused me much consternation in a similar manner.

It turned out to be “cavitation” in the fuel pump suction line caused by the sock filter being nearly, but not completely, clogged.

When the gasoline got warm enough the steady fuel pressure would suddenly drop to near zero and the engine would die.

After the fuel cooled just a little fuel pressure would return to normal, sometimes for hours or days.

Remove some of the cargo box bolts and loosen the others.
Jack one side of the cargo box above the fuel pump up to about 40 degrees to give clearance,
Watch the electrical wires in the rear near the license plate and do not damage them.
Remove the pump assembly and if you are on a budget clean just the sock filter at the bottom.

Since everything is apart consider spending $350 and replace the entire pump assembly.
If you do this go very slow and careful when removing the “anti rollover valve.” since it is not included in most pump kits.
I ended up cutting the anti rollover valve loose from the old pump with a cut off wheel on a Dremel tool, then trimming off the old pump parts to free the valve for reuse.

Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: 360view] #2684202
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the pump is a carter it has a round filter on the bottom much like a small air filter,fuel pressure has remained steady since i put the gauge on it,i think i have a bad connection somewhere,or a intermittent short?,if it would die and not restart i could find it!!!
keep the hints/help coming please!!


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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: rhad] #2684238
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This spring my 92 was dying with no warning while driving. Threw no codes. My snap on 2500 didnt get anything until the 3rd time. Code 11- crank sensor no good.
Maybe I missed where you checked this but that would easily be the number 1 next step once you are sure the splice under the engine compartment fuse box is checked for corrosion.

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thanks!,the crank sensor was the first thing i replaced(with a mopar part!)


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Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: rhad] #2684545
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Try leaving the truck in a sunny spot with the gas tank side getting hot from sunlight. Then drive it during the hottest part of the day. Fuel heats up from recirculation too so maybe letting it idle an extended period would create cavitation.

I thought I had a come and go electrical problem too.

Re: dead dakota.........still [Re: 360view] #2689595
08/19/19 11:13 PM
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i re soldered the 3 wire connection under the under hood fuse box just to be sure,also replaced the heater fan motor after all these years,started it up turned on the ac ,went to move another truck out of the way and it died and would not restart,very discouraged!!,gonna check in the morning!
will a snap on 2500 show a history when it fails and then restarts?,its obd1


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