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Re: Who has done a Pro-Street Hellcat Crate deal?
[Re: Dragula]
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STEFF
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The motor doesn't care what's behind it. You can use a 727 behind it. Just use a manual trans PCM for the motor, as they don't look for feedback from the trans.
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Re: Who has done a Pro-Street Hellcat Crate deal?
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07/12/19 06:59 AM
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Like Steff said its not going to care what car it is in or if the rear tires are big or not. I would think the only challenge would be getting the converter right to handle all the instant torque.
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Re: Who has done a Pro-Street Hellcat Crate deal?
[Re: STEFF]
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07/12/19 09:37 AM
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The motor doesn't care what's behind it. You can use a 727 behind it. Just use a manual trans PCM for the motor, as they don't look for feedback from the trans. I am looking for ET's on a pro-street application or drag race application....Doesn't look like anyone has done one except Gas Monkey Garage....And for the price of one, I am surprised. When you look at all the builds on here, many approach or exceed what one of these costs.... I am at a cross roads with my G2 and my thinking is these are not getting any more affordable, maybe its time to switch as I got real lucky this week when a part in the valve train failed...
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Re: Who has done a Pro-Street Hellcat Crate deal?
[Re: Dragula]
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07/12/19 01:58 PM
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I knew someone would post that...I am looking for some actual feedback....The engines are under $15k, and I never see any in pro-street cars, only resto mods with a stick.... Ron Polidora put one in a 64 Dodge. Beautiful build.
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Re: Who has done a Pro-Street Hellcat Crate deal?
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07/12/19 07:29 PM
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http://soundgermanautomotive.com/talk to this guy about the trans, he supports the trans and software for nag1 and TF-8 swaps.
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Re: Who has done a Pro-Street Hellcat Crate deal?
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07/13/19 04:15 PM
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I think the Pro Street fad died with Disco Dancing
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Re: Who has done a Pro-Street Hellcat Crate deal?
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07/14/19 02:19 PM
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That's exactly what I have been looking at. I talked with Byron, I think his name was about it. They mainly install them in resto mods...No drag race based cars. Seems like the are a bit over 700hp in stock form. I have also talked to Rich at FastManefi about it.... The biggest problem I have is mounting it in my pro street car...
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Re: Who has done a Pro-Street Hellcat Crate deal?
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07/15/19 11:30 AM
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Also looking for real world swap details. How much fab do you need to do to fit one in a 70 e body? Best trans to use? ETs in an old muscle car? Thanks From the pics I have collected, they look small in the engine bay. B & E body's have the same engine bay essentially and a G3 looks tiny in there.... My transmission plan is currently to run my billet drum 727 and my convertor from the 605 Hemi......If I can get the Hellcrate up 100hp, they will be in the same ballpark. But I did see an entire Hellcat drive train with the 8 speed trans and full wiring harness for sale on Racing Junk...I really never looked into the Nag 8 speeds to see of they fit. I would have to change gears in the Dana if I went that route...
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Re: Who has done a Pro-Street Hellcat Crate deal?
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07/15/19 12:29 PM
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Well, unless its bigger than this engine....it will fit in my E-body....My biggest issue is the motor mounts I need to run a motor plate, and to date, nobody has done one for a Hellcrate. The AEI one is for the other NA applications. For the efi I was thinking the Holley Dominator system....
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Re: Who has done a Pro-Street Hellcat Crate deal?
[Re: Dragula]
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the TF-8 in my 2012 charger is 9" tall at the back mount as an FYI to the differences in new car tunnels
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Re: Who has done a Pro-Street Hellcat Crate deal?
[Re: Dragula]
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07/16/19 02:09 AM
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Also looking for real world swap details. How much fab do you need to do to fit one in a 70 e body? Best trans to use? ETs in an old muscle car? Thanks From the pics I have collected, they look small in the engine bay. B & E body's have the same engine bay essentially and a G3 looks tiny in there.... My transmission plan is currently to run my billet drum 727 and my convertor from the 605 Hemi......If I can get the Hellcrate up 100hp, they will be in the same ballpark. But I did see an entire Hellcat drive train with the 8 speed trans and full wiring harness for sale on Racing Junk...I really never looked into the Nag 8 speeds to see of they fit. I would have to change gears in the Dana if I went that route... Negative on the use of your 727. G3 hemis are a small block bell housing bolt pattern.
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Re: Who has done a Pro-Street Hellcat Crate deal?
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07/16/19 10:55 AM
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Dragula
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Also looking for real world swap details. How much fab do you need to do to fit one in a 70 e body? Best trans to use? ETs in an old muscle car? Thanks From the pics I have collected, they look small in the engine bay. B & E body's have the same engine bay essentially and a G3 looks tiny in there.... My transmission plan is currently to run my billet drum 727 and my convertor from the 605 Hemi......If I can get the Hellcrate up 100hp, they will be in the same ballpark. But I did see an entire Hellcat drive train with the 8 speed trans and full wiring harness for sale on Racing Junk...I really never looked into the Nag 8 speeds to see of they fit. I would have to change gears in the Dana if I went that route... Negative on the use of your 727. G3 hemis are a small block bell housing bolt pattern. Negative on your negativity....Look up JW Ultra Bell, I have two, one for a big block, and one for a small block...It bolts on to the trans and is easily switched. Best thing that ever happened to a Mopar other than efi
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