'69 Charger front end noise
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07/07/19 06:11 PM
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Looking for ideas as to a problem that has just shown up. My Charger has always been a great riding car, suspension has been quiet, smooth. Today, first time ever, a noise has shown up. I heard it driving and can duplicate it by bouncing the car's front end manually. The noise is on the passenger side. Sounds like something is binding, it is not a squeak but a more substantial binding noise, it is reasonably loud. (Sounds sort of like old car door hinges that are not greased). Everything was greased (ball joints, steering linkage), and I greased it all again today with no difference.
The car was restored in 2011, has a few thousand miles since. It has never done this before.
It does not make the popping noise that I have heard before when a ball joint was bad. Shocks came to mind and easy to check. Any other thoughts?
Thx
'69 Hemi Charger 500, ‘70 U code Challenger R/T (These and a bunch others at www.dkowal426.com) P.J. O'Rouke: "The old car ran perfectly, right up until it didn't."
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Re: '69 Charger front end noise
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07/07/19 06:22 PM
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Worn, upper control arm bushings, worn lower control arm bushings. Were they replaced when the car was "restored"? Or. The lower control arm "shaft" goes thru the crossmember. Crossmember worn out, and out of round, causing the shaft to bounce around.
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Re: '69 Charger front end noise
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07/07/19 07:02 PM
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Worn, upper control arm bushings, worn lower control arm bushings. Were they replaced when the car was "restored"? Or. The lower control arm "shaft" goes thru the crossmember. Crossmember worn out, and out of round, causing the shaft to bounce around. As does the strut rod, so check it's bushings as well I would also check all fasteners and do not overlook the shocks and their bushings. Were the other suspension bushings Urethane or rubber if replaced ?
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Re: '69 Charger front end noise
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07/07/19 07:50 PM
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Looked at it some more.
In answer to the earlier questions...everything is rubber versus poly, yes the ball joints and other wear items were replaced as part of the resto.
I did just find something that is disturbing and I will take a closer look tomorrow. On the lower control arm, the piece in the middle that is where the torsion bar preload screw pushes against has been occasionally rubbing against the frame/body (at the very end of the piece, when the suspension travels). Theory, this could have been putting a bit of a additional load on the lower control arm shaft. Anyway, just a theory.
Tomorrow I will get it up in the air, get the wheel off, and take a better look.
'69 Hemi Charger 500, ‘70 U code Challenger R/T (These and a bunch others at www.dkowal426.com) P.J. O'Rouke: "The old car ran perfectly, right up until it didn't."
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Re: '69 Charger front end noise
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07/08/19 01:29 PM
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Just following up. It was the passenger side shock. Rock hard movement, took a bit to sneak it out to replace it. New shocks, nice ride. I guess I hadn’t noticed that the ride had deteriorated over time.
Thanks.
'69 Hemi Charger 500, ‘70 U code Challenger R/T (These and a bunch others at www.dkowal426.com) P.J. O'Rouke: "The old car ran perfectly, right up until it didn't."
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Re: '69 Charger front end noise
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07/08/19 07:25 PM
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Re: '69 Charger front end noise
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07/09/19 12:14 PM
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it's always rewarding to get something fixed, and if it's an EASY fix, that's twice as good ! finding the problem can sometimes be the toughest part. happy for you you have it covered ! Totally agree!!!!! I had visions of total front end rebuild, had started researching the parts, read the manual and then was amazed to find the broken shock...whew! Having said all of that, I think the torsion bars on the car were indexed to the LCA incorrectly when the car was restored, but that is for another day!!
'69 Hemi Charger 500, ‘70 U code Challenger R/T (These and a bunch others at www.dkowal426.com) P.J. O'Rouke: "The old car ran perfectly, right up until it didn't."
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