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hemi tone ring #2672036 06/30/19 06:27 PM 06/30/19 06:27 PM
Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 5 quebec C crazy 340 OP member
crazy 340 OP member C Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 5 quebec	Hi all I have a 2007 ram with a Noisy hemi tried to find a junkyard motor in the same years range but didnt found what I was looking for so a friend of mine who work as a mecanic at Chrysler dealer suggest me to buy a newer one and I would be fine so I found a 2017 hemi with 20 000 miles on it for a decent price but we found out the crankshaft tone ring ( reluctor Wheel ) wasnt the same the 2007 have 32 teeths and the 2017 have a 50 plus teeths so Im kind of screwed I know I can also swap the pcm and have it tune it but ... I already have a 2009 pcm on the shelf that my friend say he can tune it but man I really dont wanna go that way I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP it AS STOCK AS i CAN does someone know if I can use the tone ring from my 2007 crank on my 2017 or have a reluctor ring laying around because he use strocker cranck thanks Bob

Re: hemi tone ring [Re: crazy 340] #2672725 07/01/19 08:17 PM 07/01/19 08:17 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 16 Los Angeles, California M mdeane member
mdeane member M Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 16 Los Angeles, California	You are also going to have to deal with the camshaft. The 2017 has variable cam timing and the 2007 does not so the 2007 computer won't work with the cam unless you lock the cam timing.

Re: hemi tone ring [Re: crazy 340] #2672791 07/01/19 10:18 PM 07/01/19 10:18 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA Silver70 I Live Here
Silver70 I Live Here Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA	How many screws hold the ring on the crank of the 2017? The timing covers are different, different intake etc... I'm sure you can make it work, but your chrysler mechanic friend should have knew this all. 68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert 340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram

Re: hemi tone ring [Re: crazy 340] #2674546 07/05/19 06:20 PM 07/05/19 06:20 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada M MattW master
MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	Originally Posted by crazy 340 Hi all I have a 2007 ram with a Noisy hemi tried to find a junkyard motor in the same years range but didnt found what I was looking for so a friend of mine who work as a mecanic at Chrysler dealer suggest me to buy a newer one and I would be fine so I found a 2017 hemi with 20 000 miles on it for a decent price but we found out the crankshaft tone ring ( reluctor Wheel ) wasnt the same the 2007 have 32 teeths and the 2017 have a 50 plus teeths so Im kind of screwed I know I can also swap the pcm and have it tune it but ... I already have a 2009 pcm on the shelf that my friend say he can tune it but man I really dont wanna go that way I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP it AS STOCK AS i CAN does someone know if I can use the tone ring from my 2007 crank on my 2017 or have a reluctor ring laying around because he use strocker cranck Use your relutor wheel from the 2007 it is a 3 bolt and will bolt to the crank. But you will need to remove the crank to do it. So $$$$$$ Your are going to run into more stuff that will trouble you. The new engine wont have a power steering pump location because they are electric. Im assuming the 2017 is from a Ram. Then you have sensors. Not 100% sure but they could be different and not physically fit. You will have to lock the cam but the cam ring is the same as the early hemi. Maybe simpler to use a newer PCM but i have no idea if you will able to mate it to the 2007 truck. thanks Bob

Re: hemi tone ring [Re: MattW] #2674673 07/06/19 03:15 AM 07/06/19 03:15 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA Silver70 I Live Here
Silver70 I Live Here Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA	I believe the newer 5.7s have 4 bolt reluctor/tone rings, maybe a 6.1 style will work. You could use an earlier eagle style timing cover to get power steering, but intake/throttle body is in a different location along with other accessories. I believe it can be done, but it would be much easier to get a 08 or older engine.

Re: hemi tone ring [Re: Silver70] #2674728 07/06/19 10:06 AM 07/06/19 10:06 AM
Joined: Jul 2019 Posts: 194 Springtown Pa R Ray408G3Hemi member
Ray408G3Hemi member R Joined: Jul 2019 Posts: 194 Springtown Pa	I think the change over from 3 to 4 bolt tone wheel was in 2016, I hooked up my builder up with a pai of police 5.7s both were 2015s , both had 4 bolt tone wheels, but the 5.7 in my daughters 2015 Challenger had a 3 bolt. all were 58 teeth. you can use the 6.1 wheel or any of the aftermarket 32 tooth wheels.. My sons 08 2500 has a 2016, 6.4 in it, had to change the tone wheel while we were in there we did bearings and a new pump left the cam stock , we locked the cam at about 10 degrees retard from the full adavance postion. . had to use the 2016 front cover , mounted the Stearing pump where the 16 had the alt, and mounted the alt where the 16 had the air compressor , he did away with the air condition compressor before he swapped the 6.4 in.......Also FWIW , my 2010 Challenger stroker motor(408CI 4.03X4) is a 03 5.7 block and we used the 2010 VVT front cover....bother VVT and Non VVT timing covers will bolt on to all 5.7s but the older cover won't clear the VVT cam system. both cover have the cam timing sensor in the same spot and relationship to the tone wheel(on the cam gear ) is the same depth. 1963 Thunderbolt 496FE 10.80 (still a work in progress) 1968 Mustang slow a$$ 428 FE 1971 Boss 351 Mustang 11.20@115mph 1993 Lightning 10.61 @ 129mph 408Ci A3 headed NA 1996 Viper GTS 2001 Lightning 8.99 @ 155MPH 5.4 Mod Motor 2009 Ram 9.65@144MPH 463CI G3 NA 2010 Challenger 9.91 @ 139MPH 408CI G3ci NA 2019 F150 (local dealer's Lightning package) ..11.90s

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