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Hotchkiss E-Body Springs #2673963
07/04/19 12:08 PM
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I need new rear springs. Originals are getting saggy, one side worse than the other. It was in the "plan" for the future but I'm moving up the schedule. Has anyone been disappointed with the Hotchkiss rear springs on their E-body or is everything peachy? I'm a little concerned about the 1" drop but I think I can deal with that on the mounts if I have to. I am working on a full redo with larger torsion and sway bars. Obviously they work well in their Challenger but I'm not buying the full TVS kit. Is 160lb spring rate a good place to be? Car is a 73 Cuda with a 340. Tires should be 295/18 front and rear when the budget allows. Running road courses in the Midwest and auto X are end goals.

Re: Hotchkiss E-Body Springs [Re: gzig5] #2674277
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They are awesome on my B body

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Re: Hotchkiss E-Body Springs [Re: pro451bee] #2681755
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I've used a couple E body sets and was real happy.


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Re: Hotchkiss E-Body Springs [Re: moparmarks] #2681881
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Originally Posted by moparmarks
I've used a couple E body sets and was real happy.


Good! I ran into a set with 1000 miles on them CHEAP.
Starting to soak the bolts in Kroil, but I think the smoke wrench might have to come out.

Re: Hotchkiss E-Body Springs [Re: gzig5] #2685440
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Although I've never used the Hotchkis rear leafs for my autocross Challenger, in my opinion, their design is pretty good (flatter and heavier duty/pound). IF I'd ever use them, however, I'd increase the stiffness by adding at least one long leaf... perhaps bringing it up to about 180-190/inch... a spring shop could do this for you and determine the stiffness per inch. What you want to have a flat springs (minimal arch) when compressed by the body weight... improves cornering.

My own leafs are Flex-A-Form fiberglass mono-leafs... 225/inch (5-inch free arch uncompressed)... resulting in about 1-1.5 compressed arch. I had tried different sets of leafs in the past with different TBs... and these leafs have seemed best for competition (as well as not bad at all for street/hwy driving).

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Re: Hotchkiss E-Body Springs [Re: Mopar Mitch] #2685618
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Well, I only have $150 into them so if they don't work out it's not a big deal. I was aware of the fiberglass springs but was a bit hesitant not knowing what weight range would be appropriate for my application. Car has a ways to go before it will be ready for the track, but I hope to be playing in the Chicago, SE Wisconsin, and Southern Michigan areas when it's ready to go.

Re: Hotchkiss E-Body Springs [Re: gzig5] #2700405
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Installed them in my AAR, looked so stupid with the butt dragging that I didn't even roll the car off the hoist. Back up and reinstalled the originals.
Now, my priority was aesthetics (wanted to keep the factory rake), yours is different.

Re: Hotchkiss E-Body Springs [Re: gzig5] #2700641
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Some of the Hotchkis stuff looks cool so I know their heart is in the right place, but they have errors on the Mopar section of their website so I'm never confident in actually buying their stuff. I've tried to connect with them a few times but they never return my messages.

If you want to try some of their parts go for it, but don't expect any tech help from them. There used to be a guy from Hotchkis who would log on here but I haven't heard from him for a long time. The one contact I had there got fired and his replacement wasn't interested in talking to me so I don't have any connections there. I don't know if anyone else on the board has any contacts there either so you might be by yourself. My guess is that Mopar stuff is just a small part of the business for them so they ignore it. Or perhaps they used to have a Mopar guy but he left and nobody who works there now is into Mopars? Just guessing on my part, there could be some other explanation.

Re: Hotchkiss E-Body Springs [Re: kielbasa] #2700644
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Originally Posted by kielbasa
Installed them in my AAR, looked so stupid with the butt dragging that I didn't even roll the car off the hoist. Back up and reinstalled the originals.
Now, my priority was aesthetics (wanted to keep the factory rake), yours is different.

To be honest , I put back on original hangers on them for the same reason , too low , but it did rotate in the corners nicely , didn't lose much prowess with the factory hangers though.

Re: Hotchkiss E-Body Springs [Re: AndyF] #2700851
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Originally Posted by AndyF
Some of the Hotchkis stuff looks cool so I know their heart is in the right place, but they have errors on the Mopar section of their website so I'm never confident in actually buying their stuff. I've tried to connect with them a few times but they never return my messages.

If you want to try some of their parts go for it, but don't expect any tech help from them. There used to be a guy from Hotchkis who would log on here but I haven't heard from him for a long time. The one contact I had there got fired and his replacement wasn't interested in talking to me so I don't have any connections there. I don't know if anyone else on the board has any contacts there either so you might be by yourself. My guess is that Mopar stuff is just a small part of the business for them so they ignore it. Or perhaps they used to have a Mopar guy but he left and nobody who works there now is into Mopars? Just guessing on my part, there could be some other explanation.


Thats me. I was always on here and helping out. As the markets ebbs and flows, so does the support. I was on retainer to help out here on site, and since sales and interest waned, we all moved on. Kevin Wesley and I just finished running a couple of Challengers (Blue Widebody Redeye & White Widebody Scat Pack)at NASA Nationals in Ohio last weekend. Hotchkis recently moved the whole operation to the Moorseville facility. About a year ago we had drummed up a new LCA and even started working out a coil over system that would have been really killer, especially with their new Bluetooth remote adjustable shocks. I've still though about building out a prototype setup for installation on my Road Runner; but there is little chance it would ever make it to market. Unfortunately for us, the Mopar crowd is small, and the amount of Mopar folks willing to modify their cars is even smaller. We all know how weird we can get as a brand, and those us that choose to run our cars hard is an even smaller subset.
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Re: Hotchkiss E-Body Springs [Re: gzig5] #2716487
11/16/19 05:57 PM
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I have them on my 70' Barracuda. Smooth ride, good in corners. If you want your car really low to the ground, these would do it. Not firm (feels loose, used to a stiff spring) so it takes time to get used to it. Had their Blistein shocks on it, WAY better then the KYB's that were on it before. in all, a nice set up, but if it was a bit stiffer, It would be perfect. Planning on using it with the Magnum Force Transformer since I've had great results with that combo before.

Re: Hotchkiss E-Body Springs [Re: migsBIG] #2732797
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I know this is going to be stupid but... My buddy runs a super stock spring and loves it. Need springs for my sons cuda. so now im not sure what to get. want an all around sring. Street, drag, road track. Thoughts ?


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Re: Hotchkiss E-Body Springs [Re: hulmule] #2732824
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Originally Posted by hulmule
I know this is going to be stupid but... My buddy runs a super stock spring and loves it. Need springs for my sons cuda. so now im not sure what to get. want an all around sring. Street, drag, road track. Thoughts ?


I feel like my SS springs are leaving quite a bit on the table. However, I don't have any wrap problems.


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