I agree which works out great for me. Rather than just whining about it I started making the parts the MP forgot about. I would not have had much of a business opportunity if MP had it act together so I've always been grateful that they didn't care much about the needs of their customers. http://arengineering.com/home-page/spring-hangers/

I still have my 456/457 s-shaped pieces of $hit in the scrap pile and you are welcome to them if you pay the shipping!

It wasn't a case of them "settling", either.

As for guys not being able to figure out Cal-Tracs, there are people out there that think the earth is flat, we never landed on the moon, etc., too!

I had 002/003 springs on my car when I first started racing it and they were heavily clamped on the front segment and they worked pretty good. Then I tried Cal-Tracs for a while and they worked great for a while then they started sagging after a few years. I went back to SS springs but used the 454/455 springs and my car loves them and it still sits the way I like it after 4 years

Gus

Just shy of 9 years before I moved on
It toughened me up a little bit and I think I needed that.

B body spring relocation kits were some of my favorites....99% refusal, once it was understood the frame had to be chopped.
The 1976 barely legible blurry *Xerox copied instruction sheets they came with Just added historic perspective to it all.

The old stuff was always rough around the edges, which enabled cottage industries to take off.

Things were pretty good about 11 years ago......

*Intentional reference 😅

I have had 454/455 ss springs on my pile for a long time, they have not
Changed that I could notice. But I did buy them second hand
And the guy I bought them from said he had John R. Spring work them over...
Not sure if that was true or a fake selling point....but the springs seem ok.

The same plant in Mexico makes all of Chrysler's leaf springs...all the truck springs
Have come from there for at least 20 years....But Having seen what passes for blueprints for
Older vehicle applications, I developed my own opinions about where the issues lie.
Old specs are surpsingly loose.

I don't know why everyone is so bent on whining and bitching on this board. About everything.

I've used SS springs since I've been racing Hemis almost 50 years ago. For the money, I don't think you can beat them. I've found over the years that you do have to adjust and play with them, like you do every other race combination. I used 2 clamps on the passenger side front segment, and one on the other. The car leaves hard, and drives down through there as straight and clean as a new Chrysler 300.

It must be a “luck of the draw” thing then. Maybe a bad batch or something. I totally believe that there are plenty of guys that put these super stock springs on their cars and they performed flawless since day 1. But , it cannot be ignored that there are a some of us on here that did not have that experience. In my case, it is fact that i installed them and they severely wrapped up and remained bent On the main and 2nd leaf at the very front by the eye. We are all just putting our experiences out there so hat the op can make an educated choice. I would hate to spend my money and purchase a part that failed in some cases without me knowing about it. That might have changed my decision.

The fact that certain people here say they have good springs and then those that say they have had bad further confirms my earlier statement that no one is managing the program correctly - at least from the quality perspective.

A plant that makes good springs for current production and makes bad springs from time to time for Mopar Performance means the production engineers and quality people are engaged in quality management on the OE side and no one is home for MP.

And if any one worked with the MP tech line and responded to those quality calls that Andy references we wouldn’t be bitchn’ about it here.

What’s really frustrating - for me at least - is that most of these quality issues could easily be fixed.

I’ve been around Ma Mopar in one form or another since the early 60’s - I hate to see us going in the direction we are.

If you want something else or don't trust the SS spring, go to Easton Leaf Spring Detroit and have a set made. Probably in the $600.00+ range.

It's just not as simple as it should be.

Hopefully someday we can say hello, shake hands and talk like human beings
Were meant to.

Right now, my old buddy Don is answering the phone at home probably
In his underwear. Don is a super cool nice guy, and has a real nice
Ford Ranger with a small block Chevy in it. Not really into Mopars.
I'm not sure issues get past him.

Been out of that environment since '13, and could write a book about it
but I spite of being entertaining, it would
Probably cause more problems than it would solve.

Gee, I wonder why they gave them different part numbers ?!?!?

You still get people on this site asking which is left or right though

Gus

thanks transman. that paint is as applied in the summer of 1971. the front fender had a mishap a couple of years later, and doesn't match.
car has many "battle scars", and i more than likely will leave it as is. i'm getting a fresh bullet ready, so hopefully, it will be out very late this year, or ready for next year.
as for the UFO, this was painted without thinking about it.
it does have a little resemblance.

I have always had great luck with SS springs. I bought the SS springs on my boys Dart back around 2000 at the Dodge dealer I worked at and they were the 002 & 003 SS springs. This is the car about 6 months ago as it still sits the same and rides great like any normal car. I also put the 3400 lb SS springs on my 63 around 2008 and it still sits the same and rides good. I also don't get why people say they sit uneven with SS springs because I surely don't leave my cars sitting uneven after putting SS springs on. If they are uneven any I adjust the torsion bars so the car sits level. I have done that on all the SS springs I put on in my life and they all ride fine and work fine. But I have not bought any SS springs since 2008 so I cant speak for the quality of them since then. I also am not using a pinion snubber with my SS springs as I found it made no difference when I tried it with the SS springs. Ron

I got a set on my 65 dart (came that way to me as a roller). I loved the way it rode (daily driver). The reason for the thread/posting was I saw a set on FABO for $150 & thought they might work on my upcoming 63 dart stock car but the made in mexico metallurgy had me worried & likely the SS springs ain't a perfect selection in the first place & they did just got sold.