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New Billet BBM Water Block !! #2669861
06/25/19 05:49 PM
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Not sure of their motivation on this but is nice !!

CFE Racing Products, Inc.

Fresh out of the EZ-Bake Billet Oven!

Billet Water Jacketed Mopar Big Block
• 10.725 Deck
• Designed for Wedge Heads
• 1.000 Inch Lifter Bores
• Mopar or BBC Oiling System
• 5.400 Cam-to-Crank
• WATER JACKETED!!!!!!

Call us for more information at 586.773.6310

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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: Gary Robbins] #2669865
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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: Gary Robbins] #2669867
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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: Gary Robbins] #2669868
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Got pricing, or a web page with pricing and options?


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: Dragula] #2669879
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Made from a solid hunk of cantaffordium

Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: Stanton] #2669896
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surprised its a weldment. also surprised they didn't go straight for the crossbolts


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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: Jerry] #2669906
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Definitely the gourmet stuff.
Bigger bore centers would address a need , but then you need heads for them.
And even though I don't see myself in the market for one , I do like the approach.

Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: tubtar] #2669909
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CFE Racing as in Carl Foltz in Eastpoint Michigan? I see its a 586 area code. Well if that's Carl's block, you can bet its a great piece.

Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: unknown] #2669918
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Lookin' at that makes me feel like a young man. up

Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: unknown] #2669919
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Originally Posted by Semi-Hemi
CFE Racing as in Carl Foltz in Eastpoint Michigan? I see its a 586 area code. Well if that's Carl's block, you can bet its a great piece.


I totally agree. They do all of Prostocks billet intakes.
I spoke to Carl last year.
What a knowledgeable guy and easy to talk to.

Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: Sammy] #2669955
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I wonder if some Predator heads are going on top of it, for a Black Dart?

Noonan did a water jacketed Hemi block last year for Drag Week


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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: tubtar] #2669967
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but then you need heads for them

and a crank, and a cam, and an intake manifold, and a pan (and motor mounts, a driveshaft?).
IMHO this is only practical when you've reached a point of development where more inches is better use of money than the existing available parts.
Makes boost look cheap, don't it?


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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: LA360] #2669969
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Distributer is in the wrong spot..... but still pretty cool! It’s great seeing ANY new stuff coming down the pipe Mopar related!!!

Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: Jerry] #2669970
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Welding allows internal construction that cannot be cast


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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: polyspheric] #2669982
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Originally Posted by polyspheric
but then you need heads for them

and a crank, and a cam, and an intake manifold, and a pan (and motor mounts, a driveshaft?).
IMHO this is only practical when you've reached a point of development where more inches is better use of money than the existing available parts.
Makes boost look cheap, don't it?

A thousand here..........a thousand there.
Pretty soon , you're talking real money.
But yeah.........I saw an 807 " Billet everything in a carbon fiber '71 Mustang at Houston Motorsports park last summer and I haven't been the same since.
Bickel built , four stages of spray.......it was literally more car than they had track for.

Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: polyspheric] #2669985
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Originally Posted by polyspheric
but then you need heads for them

and a crank, and a cam, and an intake manifold, and a pan (and motor mounts, a driveshaft?).
IMHO this is only practical when you've reached a point of development where more inches is better use of money than the existing available parts.
Makes boost look cheap, don't it?


How is boost cheap when it quickly can push well beyond what a stock block can handle?Anything in a Mopar block other than a Hemi that is over 700hp is pretty much on borrowed time. Strokers with good heads already hit 700hp easily....So adding boost is like burning the wick at both ends...These are the kinds of blocks you need for boost.


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: LA360] #2670045
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Originally Posted by LA360
I wonder if some Predator heads are going on top of it, for a Black Dart?


No. I saw his new water block a few weeks ago.

Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: STEFF] #2670049
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What type of welds were used to construct the welded block assembly ?

Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: polyspheric] #2670051
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It’s a billet block. No casting.
Welding is easier than the alternative which would be bolt on sealed covers.
I like the china wall placement. Easy to prevent valvetrane parts from migrating into the spinny part of the engine.
Also like the dual pattern bell.
Nice, I bet it isn’t all that more expensive than a new priced KB.


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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: TRENDZ] #2670067
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Looks to me like it has a rather decent head placement platform for serious blower and or high strung turbo set ups to prevent head gasket/sealing problems.

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