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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2670080
06/26/19 08:33 AM
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Am I correct that the welded areas are to close up the access for the CNC machine to cut out water jackets?

Looks very nice! Depending on how thick the welded on plate is on the outside of the block, that looks like it can create some header fitment problems.


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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: an8sec70cuda] #2670084
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Straight out of Michigan, gotta love that.


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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: ZIPPY] #2670158
06/26/19 11:57 AM
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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: ZIPPY] #2670171
06/26/19 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ZIPPY
Straight out of Michigan, gotta love that.


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Take that China biggrin


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: Gary Robbins] #2670172
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Is that work of art heat treated/stress relieved/cyro'd during the build/weld process?

That might be proprietary, so a general response is fine.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: jcc] #2670177
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Thank God for Facebook so we can see stuff like this and drag it over here. Looks like a nice piece but way out of my budget


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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: jcc] #2670186
06/26/19 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jcc
Is that work of art heat treated/stress relieved/cyro'd during the build/weld process?

That might be proprietary, so a general response is fine.



I would like to see some pics prior to welding, just to see what kind of weld joints were used?

Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: RATTRAP] #2670213
06/26/19 01:53 PM
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While this block isn't for everyone cost wise ( 16K water....14K dry ) it's a drop in the bucket for some !!!

What gets my curiosity is why as CFE has plenty on their plate already for them to do a BBM billet block !!!

Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: Dragula] #2670249
06/26/19 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragula
Got pricing, or a web page with pricing and options?


I called. $16,000


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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: Gary Robbins] #2670250
06/26/19 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Robbins

While this block isn't for everyone cost wise ( 16K water....14K dry ) it's a drop in the bucket for some !!!

What gets my curiosity is why as CFE has plenty on their plate already for them to do a BBM billet block !!!


14K dry is a joke. CN makes a good looking billet block for $9,000 and I don't think BAE is higher.

http://www.cnblocks.com/CNHemi/CNHemi.html


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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: rickseeman] #2670254
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For the guys looking to stay with a Mopar in the fast classes, this is a good avenue......I still remember when blocks were $2495 and people were complaining....

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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: Dragula] #2670256
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I remember $295


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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: STEFF] #2670258
06/26/19 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by STEFF
Originally Posted by LA360
I wonder if some Predator heads are going on top of it, for a Black Dart?


No. I saw his new water block a few weeks ago.


Who made it?


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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: rickseeman] #2670261
06/26/19 03:15 PM
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So who is gonna spend that much for a wedge block?
Aren't the Predator heads for a hemi block better than the wedge versions due to the bolt/port layout??
Most, if not all, of the super high powered stuff nowadays are blown or turbo hemis. Guess I'm not seeing the application for this? Especially at that price.


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'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: Gary Robbins] #2670270
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I started out in the sport I love running 13’s and had a blast. Now honestly I’m having fun running 9.40’s, actually 6.0’s in the 1/8 and racing every weekend when Mother Nature isn’t raining on our parade. Do I want to go faster, of course I do. But I’ve convinced myself that I can’t afford to build a competitive heads up car seeing the big bucks guys are putting into their builds and then burning themselves out on the sport. I watch guys putting a few runs on every year, pulling th engine, and dropping it off to their favorite builder for a refresh. No thanks I’ll stick to my budget builds and enjoy the sport and what I can do with my hands and my money


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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: pittsburghracer] #2670284
06/26/19 04:15 PM
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While I'll never be in the market for a block, it is good to see someone expanding the Mopar parts line. boogie


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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: slantzilla] #2670302
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Aren't the Predator heads for a hemi block better than the wedge versions due to the bolt/port layout??
Most, if not all, of the super high powered stuff nowadays are blown or turbo hemis. Guess I'm not seeing the application for this? Especially at that price.

I have heard that before, but having built 2 Predators (1 with Hemi mead pattern and 1 with the wedge pattern) I don't believe that to be true and would not hesitate to build a wedge Predator. Al Alguire's made more power than mine with wedge heads so? The block is for the high end racer as is the CFE stuff in general. The general public will never buy a product like this, and they know it. It's not for that. It's for the guys that want to race a Mopar product and don't care what the cost is. That's not me. One other side note, it wouldn't matter if you wanted a GM design, the price would be the same.

Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: rickseeman] #2670316
06/26/19 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rickseeman
Originally Posted by Dragula
Got pricing, or a web page with pricing and options?


I called. $16,000

I'd die for one of those blocks.

No, seriously, if I bought one, my wife would kill me.

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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: camastomcat] #2670327
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One other side note, it wouldn't matter if you wanted a GM design, the price would be the same.
I think you mean the development cost? Perhaps.
But the price is greatly affected by projected sales volume.
Do you think you could sell more BBM heads like that? Or BBC heads? That would make the BBC cheaper.

But no one would buy a BBC head at that price, since there are already comparable products much cheaper.


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Re: New Billet BBM Water Block !! [Re: polyspheric] #2670338
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Since predators are available in hemi config (better than wedge), and blown power is better with hemi heads, why make a wedge block? Runnig alky you'd get by with no water, or just in the head sooooo There must be something more going on. Or they made one for someone, and now have the program.

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