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Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. #2667651
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You see a lot of fake made up stuff of social media outlets these days,,,
I ask because PA seems to follow CA lately when it comes to auto regs (usually a few years behind)

Any truth to the pic below out there in the land of high taxes and over regulation? shruggy

Commiefornia DMV sign.jpg
Re: Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. [Re: Runner2go] #2667661
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Here it's illegal to paint more than one car per year on residential property, and the car has to be titled in your name according to the guy at the paint store counter. If you paint anything in your garage/shop you best do your best to stay low. Once code enforcement shows up they can find all sorts of things. Most places have something illegal that the right guy can write you up on.

Lots of body shop guys do the wrecked rebuilder thing in their garages for side money and it's not legal to operate a business of any type on residential property either. Evil neighbor lady was running a décor business from her house. I should have ratted her out before she sold the house and moved.

BTW DIY garage paint jobs are how many people do it since it's hard as heck to get a legit bodyshop to do an old car before you die of old age, or they die of alcoholism, drug OD, or file bankruptcy etc..

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Re: Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. [Re: Runner2go] #2667665
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Re: Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. [Re: CrAlt] #2667668
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Thats all some crazy stuff, one would think the homeless/drug problem in Cali would be a much higher priority.

Many of us are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZG11UBoj-o

Re: Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. [Re: CrAlt] #2667677
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"People are getting tickets for restoring vehicles in their garage"

Seems like it should be up to the meme creator to prove this statement. If it's happening that often, it should be easy to prove, right? wink laugh2

I suppose one might "strip down" a vehicle during restoration, with the intent to put it back together.

As long as you're not stripping down (stolen) vehicles, selling the parts, and dumping the oil/coolant on the ground, I'd think you'd be ok...


As for the drugs/homeless problem, is there a master list of the issues that we can only work on and solve one at a time somewhere? Or are we capable of working on more than one thing at a time?


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Re: Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. [Re: hooziewhatsit] #2667695
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Read the link, does not apply to someone restoring a vehicle

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The term "automobile dismantler" does not include any of the following:

The owner of any premises on which two or more unregistered and inoperable vehicles are held or stored, if the vehicles are used, or intended to be used, for restoration or as replacement parts or otherwise in conjunction with any business of a licensed dealer, manufacturer, or transporter, or in conjunction with the operation and maintenance of any fleet of motor vehicles used for the transportation of persons or property.
The owner of any premises or property used in conjunction with any agricultural, farming, mining, ranching, or motor vehicle repair business.
Any person engaged in the restoration of vehicles of the type described in Vehicle Code Section 5004 or in the restoration of other vehicles having historic or classic significance.

Re: Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. [Re: moparts] #2667775
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Just read a story today about a guy who lost his parts car Challenger because he sold some parts off it on Craigslist and the man came by and ticketed him and took the car and parts from a 66 Dart he had parted out years ago! Yes it was in Kalifornika... eek


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Re: Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. [Re: Rhinodart] #2667806
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some municipalities attempt to restrict the amount of parting out that occurs within their boundaries. Typically if the vehicles are stored indoors, or in some municipalities behind a fence and maintained on "non op" you'll be o.k.
The problem lies with zoning districts, neighbor and dismantler complaints. Code enforcement is generally initiated by neighbor, or competitor complaints.

Re: Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. [Re: srt] #2667813
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I always bought a copy of the local zoning ordinances any where I lived. It's cheap insurance to know ahead of time what problems you might be getting into.


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Re: Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. [Re: Porter67] #2667820
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Hahahahahahahahaha. Get [censored]. Guess i'd be 100% criminal there too.


Originally Posted by EV2Bird
Thats all some crazy stuff, one would think the homeless/drug problem in Cali would be a much higher priority.

Many of us are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZG11UBoj-o


Last week, our "esteemed" RCMP quite literally drove past THREE infamous, well-documented and well known homeless/addict/thief camps, quite literally overflowing with stolen stuff, drug offences, weapons offences (big in Canada), not to mention all the other offences, trespassing and biohazard dumping included, to shut down a well-loved music-studio/restaurant/open patio (not so open, all closed/walled up and out back in rural land) for not having the proper permits for DANCING. Every other single permit possible, and the one in question actually in the pipeline... VERY law-abiding owner... and the cops, in person, shut them down and forced the place closed.

I make a lot ov fun ov California, but i honestly wonder if we have it ANY better here...

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Re: Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. [Re: Pale_Roader] #2667913
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..... no wonder California is losing citizens left and right !

I don’t think ANYONE would argue that this could be the best state to live in BUT ONLY if it was run properly.


...... roger that .., whackin’ the whack JOBS is my mission ...a noble Crusader !
Re: Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. [Re: Doc Fiberglass] #2667932
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I think its going to depend on where you live in the PRC. Dependant on the local collective and if they hold frequent tribunals.


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I live in a sparse but seemingly good area and see no junkers in yards or just growing flowers around them. Our DMV is also pretty lax, one rig I finished I bought in 94 and it sat inside with no plates from when I bought it out of state, $100 max fee for not having it plated is the most they can charge. Just needed a vin inspection sheet.

Being a farm I paint a good many tractors, do alot of clutch, cylinder and sleeve R@R and its just normal life.

Alot do burn stuff here and the smoke cant be good for the air, I do and maybe better or not but ive an incinerator that puts out no smoke from the bad things I burn so maybe its cleaner.

Re: Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. [Re: Doc Fiberglass] #2667939
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I know several acquaintances and friends that moved out of state to avoid taxes and regulations. Each started doing what they thought they were missing. Tuners and straight exhaust on diesel, "no tax" states and seem to enjoy their new found liberties. However each say they have made sacrifices in conveniences and is some cases their "expenses" have gone up.
I have to say there is a few things I wish could be changed. Some of the cleaning materials available here have become so low voc that they are useless. At the same time there is an emergence of biodegradable products that do a nice job without harming the enviro, or me.
Regarding loosing citizens, many of those leaving are not the type you'd want for a neighbor.

Re: Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. [Re: Porter67] #2667947
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Originally Posted by EV2Bird
incinerator that puts out no smoke from the bad things I burn so maybe its cleaner.

I had hoped to install an incinerator with heat exchanger to heat our home. I generate a large amount of biomass from pruning and brush and tree removal I'd like to use rather than stuff into a green plastic can the white trucks haul away. Unfortunately CA air regs won't allow commercial sale. It's not a problem with the emissions of clean material that make them uncertifable, rather it's the other stuff people burn that really shouldn't (i.e. pressure treated and painted wood, household garbage, used oils, etc.).
I've been working on a design for personal use. If it's not sold to the public there is more liberty in design. Found out to beware of "stack checks" should neighbors complain. I'd have to be careful to burn only clean vegetation and would need to "give" the appliance to any future owner of our property, or remove it.

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Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
..... no wonder California is losing citizens left and right !

I don’t think ANYONE would argue that this could be the best state to live in BUT ONLY if it was run properly.


Well i could not have said it better myself......

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Ha ha, thats like saying Hell would be a great place to live if only the devil didnt run things and it was 1000 degrees cooler.



Originally Posted by MidPenMopar
Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
..... no wonder California is losing citizens left and right !

I don’t think ANYONE would argue that this could be the best state to live in BUT ONLY if it was run properly.


Well i could not have said it better myself......

Re: Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. [Re: Runner2go] #2667978
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Most people in Silicon Valley (where I live) don't have any interest in working on cars. I'm lucky to live in a pretty upscale neighborhood and I am the only one who works on his own cars. And I mean literally the only one. I've been out in the driveway working on my wife's Honda and had neighbors drive by in their new Land Rover (or Range Rover, whatever they're called) and they look over at me like I'm some sort of nut. Fortunately, people keep to themselves in my neighborhood, so they don't bother me.

That said, the powers that be want you out of your car. Actually, they don't really want you to have a car unless it is powered by electricity. Many young people don't own cars and use Uber or Lyft instead.

I can't wait to retire and get out of Sillycon Valley.

Re: Question for CA guys... working on your own cars. [Re: Porter67] #2667979
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Cities misuse the codes on the books as far as major work. While that law is on the books, it is going to be rarely enforced. I've had my own problems with code enforcement, but have not been hassled by them for quite some time. The last guy was stalking me trying to catch me working on my own cars. When he couldn't do that he had parking services give us parking tickets for parking perpendicular in our cul de sac. That apparently got him fired for harassment. His parting shot was sending PD out to find out if I was running an illegal business. That was in 2006. And, yes, I became more knowledgeable of the municipal code than anybody working for the city...

This also happens in many places other than California...

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ha hA ? .... so Newsom = the devil ??!! laugh2



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Originally Posted by EV2Bird
Ha ha, thats like saying Hell would be a great place to live if only the devil didnt run things and it was 1000 degrees cooler.



Originally Posted by MidPenMopar
Originally Posted by Doc Fiberglass
..... no wonder California is losing citizens left and right !

I don’t think ANYONE would argue that this could be the best state to live in BUT ONLY if it was run properly.


Well i could not have said it better myself......


...... roger that .., whackin’ the whack JOBS is my mission ...a noble Crusader !
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