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Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: Brian Hafliger] #2668568
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Thanks for all the input guys all good stuff much appreciated.

Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: biff426] #2668576
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Originally Posted by biff426
Thanks for all the input guys all good stuff much appreciated.


It just hit me. We talked about those behives on those heads before you even bought them, correct?

Put a .010 pushrod in the motor


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Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: sixpackgut] #2668579
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We did talk about it. I was nervous then and I talked myself into keeping the springs on there. I really feel if I can get it to carry power to 75-7600 it would make 780ish. What part number lifter do you use?

Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: biff426] #2668592
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In current motor I have been running for years has been stock lifter. The other set for new engine and the lifter Steff was running is the hylift 2335s lifter


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Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: sixpackgut] #2668660
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Anyone try shorter tip valves and lash caps with stock rockers?

Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: fbs63] #2668666
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Throw that sucker in this car.

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Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: pittsburghracer] #2668794
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Throw that sucker in this car.




Whos car is that? Always wanted one. They look great with big tire too


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Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: sixpackgut] #2668796
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Originally Posted by sixpackgut
Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Throw that sucker in this car.




Whos car is that? Always wanted one. They look great with big tire too





Brad watt had a picture of it and a post looking for this car for a Friend. A for sale ad came up shortly after that. I think it’s in Ohio


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Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: pittsburghracer] #2668797
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I think an 8 second Gen 3 would look pretty cool planted between the frame rails


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Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: pittsburghracer] #2668798
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
I think an 8 second Gen 3 would look pretty cool planted between the frame rails



If I had you money I would buy it


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Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: sixpackgut] #2668801
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Originally Posted by sixpackgut
Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
I think an 8 second Gen 3 would look pretty cool planted between the frame rails



If I had you money I would buy it





If I had your money I would build a Gen 3.


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Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: pittsburghracer] #2668839
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by sixpackgut
Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
I think an 8 second Gen 3 would look pretty cool planted between the frame rails



If I had you money I would buy it





If I had your money I would build a Gen 3.


Lol touche


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Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: biff426] #2671328
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Originally Posted by biff426
SO made a couple hits with the 850 dyno carb and timing from 20-26 degrees it liked 22 made 748HP.@7300. Putting the bigger carb and spacers on it and going to play with jetting should be worth some HP. ALso the headers we had to use are 13/4 and the ones going in the car are 2" not sure what if anything that will do. Can't get the 2" to fit on the dyno without reinventing the wheel.


I was within 8hp,,,,,,,,Nice little beast there.


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Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: Dragula] #2674784
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Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: Ray408G3Hemi] #2674866
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Making a lifter and spring change. updating to Manton shafts and putting a vacuum pump on it. Everything is ordered just waiting for some parts to show up.

Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: biff426] #2750934
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All the updates are done its back on the dyno hopefully we can make in the 775hp range
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Short travel lifters
Manton Shafts
Vac pump
Spring change to PSI 1516
lash caps
putting the 2 inch header on it
We had some valve float issues on the last pulls we made before the updates

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Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: biff426] #2750953
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Hows the rocker geometry with the lash caps?

Re: 420 going on the dyno updated 3-11-20 [Re: biff426] #2750994
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Am I reading this all right that you made 750ish HP with stock rockers and lifters?


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Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: fbs63] #2751000
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The geometry is pretty good I wouldn't say great as the valve was already a little tall but it gives the rocker more area on the valve.

Yes we made 748 with the stock rockers and hellcat lifters from mopar the lifters were not happy in the upper rpm range 6500-up and I can't really blame the lifter I think the spring had a lot to do with it.

Re: 420 going on the dyno next couple days [Re: biff426] #2751548
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Made a couple light pulls but the puke tank is getting a ton of oil through the vacuum pump. I have the Ritter intake and have the pickup for the vacuum pump coming out of the oil fill. The valve covers are not very friendly for a fitting. Who has ever used a vac pump on one of these and where do you put the fitting. We leaked the enegine and it leaks 4% cold so I don't think it's that the engine has blowby. This thing is pushing a bunch of oil in the higher RPMs.

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