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440 cast or steel crank #2664014 06/09/19 12:43 PM 06/09/19 12:43 PM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 233 WV,USA W wvmarv OP enthusiast
wvmarv OP enthusiast W Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 233 WV,USA	I need to know how to tell if the crankshaft in my 440 is cast or steel while it's still in the car? Thanks for the help.

Re: 440 cast or steel crank [Re: wvmarv] #2664031 06/09/19 01:46 PM 06/09/19 01:46 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,097 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,097 Bend,OR USA	If the motor is stock and has never had any work done on it then you can look on the side of the block for the casting date, if it was cast after 08-30-73 it will be a 1974 motor and it should have a cast crankshaft with the oddball looking front balancer that says for cast crankshafts only Mopar used forged steel crankshafts in some of the 1973 440 motor home motors and some cast crankshafts. The word is that Mopar switch to cast crankshafts in all the passenger car motors in 1972 or 1973, not truly so on the BB stick shift pickup truck motors What are your concerns on wanting to know about this? Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: 440 cast or steel crank [Re: Cab_Burge] #2664043 06/09/19 02:11 PM 06/09/19 02:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada R RUNCHARGER I Live Here
RUNCHARGER I Live Here R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,976 Chilliwack B.C. Canada	Forged crank has a thick parting line. Cast cranks have a sharp parting line. Sheldon

Re: 440 cast or steel crank [Re: wvmarv] #2664079 06/09/19 04:46 PM 06/09/19 04:46 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	thin dampener... forged thick dampener... cast ( on this pic the thick one is very lates cast called "bullet" kind, but earliers cast pieces are straight about same thickness on TC unweightened TC forged weighted TC, cast Last edited by NachoRT74; 06/09/19 04:46 PM. With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: 440 cast or steel crank [Re: NachoRT74] #2664098 06/09/19 05:23 PM 06/09/19 05:23 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	As said the dampener should tell you but worse case you could run a borescope up in the oil pan drain hole & directly eyeball the crank parting lines. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: 440 cast or steel crank [Re: Cab_Burge] #2664103 06/09/19 06:00 PM 06/09/19 06:00 PM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 233 WV,USA W wvmarv OP enthusiast
wvmarv OP enthusiast W Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 233 WV,USA	I'm going to do a 4-speed conversion and need to know which crank is in the engine before I order the kit. The engine was in the car when I bought it. It is not the original engine.Thanks for the info.

Re: 440 cast or steel crank [Re: NachoRT74] #2664104 06/09/19 06:02 PM 06/09/19 06:02 PM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 233 WV,USA W wvmarv OP enthusiast
wvmarv OP enthusiast W Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 233 WV,USA	Thanks a ton, I will eyeball the dampener.

Re: 440 cast or steel crank [Re: RapidRobert] #2664105 06/09/19 06:05 PM 06/09/19 06:05 PM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 233 WV,USA W wvmarv OP enthusiast
wvmarv OP enthusiast W Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 233 WV,USA	Great idea. Thanks

Re: 440 cast or steel crank [Re: RUNCHARGER] #2664106 06/09/19 06:08 PM 06/09/19 06:08 PM
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 233 WV,USA W wvmarv OP enthusiast
wvmarv OP enthusiast W Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 233 WV,USA	Thanks, I knew to check that when the crank was out of the engine, but this engine is still in the car.

Re: 440 cast or steel crank [Re: wvmarv] #2664137 06/09/19 07:42 PM 06/09/19 07:42 PM
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 4,663 Wichita G GY3 master
GY3 master G Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 4,663 Wichita	If it breaks above 600 hp, it's a cast crank. LOL '63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: 440 cast or steel crank [Re: GY3] #2664143 06/09/19 08:05 PM 06/09/19 08:05 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	^^^ Ding ding ding I (do) believe we have a winna live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: 440 cast or steel crank [Re: wvmarv] #2664165 06/09/19 09:09 PM 06/09/19 09:09 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,097 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,097 Bend,OR USA	You should make absolutely sure the flywheel and balancer are match for the motors type of balancing I bought a 1976 400 short block out of a 1976 dodge 3/4 ton pickup, it had a forged steel crank and a thin balancer I didn't get to see the flywheel so I'm not sure if that motor was internally balanced or not The balancer had a bunch of holes drill in the back side of the outer ring, all on one side Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

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