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Re: Picked up this beauty this weekend!!! [Re: RapidusMaximus] #2659561
05/27/19 08:43 AM
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I'd still have it checked. I worked nine years in an IH parts department. Just because it's a new part, doesn't mean it's good. I've told this one before...we handled Delco Remy starters and alternators. On several occasions we would go thru stacks of each trying to find a good one, and that was 20 years ago. With all the off shore made parts, it happens more often than not. HAve you cleaned your grounds? IIRC you had your dash apart....how did the alternator gauge look? Wonder if a bad gauge could be the cause?


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1981 Dodge D150 360 auto
Re: Picked up this beauty this weekend!!! [Re: basketcase] #2659576
05/27/19 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by basketcase
I'd still have it checked. I worked nine years in an IH parts department. Just because it's a new part, doesn't mean it's good. I've told this one before...we handled Delco Remy starters and alternators. On several occasions we would go thru stacks of each trying to find a good one, and that was 20 years ago. With all the off shore made parts, it happens more often than not. HAve you cleaned your grounds? IIRC you had your dash apart....how did the alternator gauge look? Wonder if a bad gauge could be the cause?

Well, I found a voltage regulator test procedure on the old internet and tested the new one per the procedure and it checks good, the alternator gauge looked ok and it appears to be functioning properly...it moves to discharge when you turn anything that demands power on...lights, blinkers etc. Currently I'm pulling the bulkhead connectors again and recleaning just to make sure it didn't miss one...as far as grounds go, I checked but if the cleaning of the bulkhead connectors doesn't work...again...I'll go back over the grounds...


1968 Plymouth GTX 440 4 Speed Dana
1967 Small block Dart under construction
1974 Dodge P/U Long Bed Stepside 318 Auto
1981 CJ 7
2016 Dodge Ram Hemi 1500
Re: Picked up this beauty this weekend!!! [Re: RapidusMaximus] #2659628
05/27/19 12:24 PM
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Ok...so after bouncing around the internet for awhile I decided to run a test wire from the hot wire on the back of the alternator to the + post on the battery and wala...14.7 volts....what the heck did I just discover???. Prior to doing this I had checked grounds all the way to the instrument panel and had continutity everywhere it should be. Does this mean the main wire is bad or disconnected somewhere that I can't see?
As a side note, prior to installing the test wire I checked the voltage at the back of the alternator and had 40 volts...at the back of the alternator gauge I had 36 volts.
Update: the above made me decide to trace the alternator feed wire all the way to the bulkhead disconnect, everything ok to the engine compartment side...under the dash I go again...tugged on the alternator feed wire...and it fell out...cleaned it, tightened up the crimp and fed it back into its lock and bingo were charging 14.7 at the battery, Yee haw...new alternator, new voltage regulator, clean bulkhead connectors...and it turns out to be a disconnected wire inside the bulkhead connector...isn't this fun...lol laugh2 boogie

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1967 Small block Dart under construction
1974 Dodge P/U Long Bed Stepside 318 Auto
1981 CJ 7
2016 Dodge Ram Hemi 1500
Re: Picked up this beauty this weekend!!! [Re: RapidusMaximus] #2659686
05/27/19 04:03 PM
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Finally got a test drive in...runs, drives and stops well, manual steering on this beast is easier than my GTX, lol. Still need to fix wipers, tail lights and heater hot water shut off and a few other nit noids...but other than that it gets a up

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1968 Plymouth GTX 440 4 Speed Dana
1967 Small block Dart under construction
1974 Dodge P/U Long Bed Stepside 318 Auto
1981 CJ 7
2016 Dodge Ram Hemi 1500
Re: Picked up this beauty this weekend!!! [Re: RapidusMaximus] #2659690
05/27/19 04:21 PM
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thumbs glad you figured it out! don't know what ur getting into with the wipers, but now's the time to replace the nylon bushings on the arms.


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1981 Dodge D150 360 auto
Re: Picked up this beauty this weekend!!! [Re: basketcase] #2659754
05/27/19 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by basketcase
thumbs glad you figured it out! don't know what ur getting into with the wipers, but now's the time to replace the nylon bushings on the arms.

Yeah, amen to that, currently when I turn the wiper switch on I get nothing...nada...and the fuse is not blown...so I guess it on to the next troubleshooting adventure... boogie


1968 Plymouth GTX 440 4 Speed Dana
1967 Small block Dart under construction
1974 Dodge P/U Long Bed Stepside 318 Auto
1981 CJ 7
2016 Dodge Ram Hemi 1500
Re: Picked up this beauty this weekend!!! [Re: RapidusMaximus] #2659787
05/27/19 09:45 PM
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one of mine did that. ran an extra ground from one of the mounting bolts to the firewall and was back in business.


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1981 Dodge D150 360 auto
Re: Picked up this beauty this weekend!!! [Re: basketcase] #2659858
05/28/19 07:14 AM
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One thing you might consider is the MAD Electrical ammeter bypass. IIRC, it's pretty simple to add a voltmeter to the cluster in the ammeter's position. When I did the bypass on the Charger I had already added a mechanical oil pressure and voltmeter to the car. up

http://madelectrical.com/electricaltech/amp-gauges.shtml

And here is a thread on FBBO about doing the "fleet bypass" so that the ammeter remains functional. Not entirely sure about this one as I think the general consensus is that the gauge itself is a weak point also.

https://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforum/threads/ammeter-bypass.65337/



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Re: Picked up this beauty this weekend!!! [Re: I_bleed_MOPAR] #2661413
06/02/19 06:21 AM
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Update: couple of days of trouble shooting and wire chasing and got all of the lights working, required cleaning grounds, repairing damaged wires, new brake light switch, new turn signal switch and still have the wiper motor fix left to do. Pulled the interior out of the cab, seat, rubber floor mat and all and discovered dirt...lots of it...but no rust and the driver's side of the seat has a hole in it covered by a piece of carpet and a nasty old seat cover, going to run over to Summit today and get a new shifter boot and a new seat cover...may have it ready for tags and inspection by next weekend.... up

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1968 Plymouth GTX 440 4 Speed Dana
1967 Small block Dart under construction
1974 Dodge P/U Long Bed Stepside 318 Auto
1981 CJ 7
2016 Dodge Ram Hemi 1500
Re: Picked up this beauty this weekend!!! [Re: RapidusMaximus] #2661430
06/02/19 07:34 AM
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wow, never see a floor like that around here....


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Re: Picked up this beauty this weekend!!! [Re: basketcase] #2661550
06/02/19 12:53 PM
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Geez that floor looks great!!!!

As far as the wipers go, I decided to remove mine as I do my best to keep it out of rain. I carry RainX in case I get caught in rain. I plugged the holes for looks, and I really like looking out the clear windshield with no obstruction.


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Re: Picked up this beauty this weekend!!! [Re: larrymopar360] #2661552
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Your floor is as good as mine. You don't see many as original and clean as ours!

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Re: Picked up this beauty this weekend!!! [Re: larrymopar360] #2661641
06/02/19 07:38 PM
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Well...changed the wiper motor and bushings...works like new up Ran over to Summit and grabbed a Hurst shifter boot and a seat cover, got those installed, installed new tail light lenses, door seals...couple things still on my list...change out the 4 bladed direct drive fan with a 5 bladed clutch fan I have sitting on the shelf and replace the frozen hot water shut off to the heater, almost ready for a long distance test drive up


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1967 Small block Dart under construction
1974 Dodge P/U Long Bed Stepside 318 Auto
1981 CJ 7
2016 Dodge Ram Hemi 1500
Re: Picked up this beauty this weekend!!! [Re: RapidusMaximus] #2662500
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Sweet. up



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Re: Picked up this beauty this weekend!!! [Re: I_bleed_MOPAR] #2662607
06/05/19 10:51 AM
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Previous owner was scared someone would steal the Powerwagon and Dodge emblems off the hood so he popped them off and saved them...what is a good recommendation for adhesive for reinstallation?


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1967 Small block Dart under construction
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2016 Dodge Ram Hemi 1500
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