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Re: Historical B-17 movie: The Cold Blue [Re: ChryCoGuy] #2658643
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The stories I heard about the choice on WW2 bombers from the crews was that the B24 was better, safer and better liked than the Flying Fortress B17 confused
I've seen pictures of both bombers with severe air frame damage surviving and returning to base with the crew. Some of those airplanes where canabilzed later for parts to keep other airplanes flying thumbs
I knew one B24 navigator who flew out of North Africa on bombing mission into Romaina to bomb the oil fields, I think they ended up being relocated to Italy to fly missions into Germany later shruggy
I can't remember the exact numbers I've heard of the B24 versus the B17 that flew combat missions in both theater, I do remember the B24 having a lot more airplane in services according to the story tellers years ago shruggy
I do think the B17 looked a lot better than the B24 did though work
My favorite WW2 fighter is the P38, my favorite medium bomber is both the B25 and B26, my favorite heavy bomber is the B29.

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Re: Historical B-17 movie: The Cold Blue [Re: Sunroofcuda] #2658734
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Saw it last night with my Son. Sadly not enough publicity to pack the theater. Maybe just about 30 souls in the seats in a seating arrangement of about 150 or so.

In short, A sweet love letter of a film about those young men that took the ultimate leap of faith, sometimes literally out of falling fortresses. It is slow in growth and fearful in other areas with the sound and music. I would honestly say, kudos to the director for bringing forth their respective memories.

You leave with a sense that we as a country pretty much did not have the war effort all figured out and the Germans did, and subsequently that is why we struggled against them for a few years.
We were just desperately more determined as well as the British even though they weren't happy with our friendly occupation of their country to set off those raids. Nuff said.
Sometimes it is the inanimate objects of our youth that set off a grand fondness such as those B's

Re: Historical B-17 movie: The Cold Blue [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2658762
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I saw the movie last night, well done, the work to restore the original film was incredible. It was interesting listening to the surviving crewman talk about their experiences, insights on the plane and flying in them, some of the footage was awesome to see, and learning a couple of the cameramen lost their lives while fliming, as they were in planes that were shot down and so forth.
Seeing and hearing all they went thru just further proves for me they were the greatest generation.


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Re: Historical B-17 movie: The Cold Blue [Re: Cab_Burge] #2658763
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Originally Posted by Cab_Burge
The stories I heard about the choice on WW2 bombers from the crews was that the B24 was better, safer and better liked than the Flying Fortress B17 confused
I've seen pictures of both bombers with severe air frame damage surviving and returning to base with the crew. Some of those airplanes where canabilzed later for parts to keep other airplanes flying thumbs
I knew one B24 navigator who flew out of North Africa on bombing mission into Romaina to bomb the oil fields, I think they ended up being relocated to Italy to fly missions into Germany later shruggy
I can't remember the exact numbers I've heard of the B24 versus the B17 that flew combat missions in both theater, I do remember the B24 having a lot more airplane in services according to the story tellers years ago shruggy
I do think the B17 looked a lot better than the B24 did though work
My favorite WW2 fighter is the P38, my favorite medium bomber is both the B25 and B26, my favorite heavy bomber is the B29.


Yeah, I can't dispute one way or another as I wasn't there. Let me just summarize by saying I'm a huge fan of the 17 and leave it at that.

Re: Historical B-17 movie: The Cold Blue [Re: ChryCoGuy] #2658793
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If you have never been inside one of these planes, you need to do so. They definitely are not as roomy as they are in the movies. I remember crawling thru a B-17 at the Air Force Museum when I was in Jr High. Not as easily a few years ago when we went thru Nine O Nine. And that was in jeans and a t shirt. Not bouncing around in full flying geat at 20,000 feet. How anyone ever got out of one of these aircraft on it's way down is a miracle. For most of the aircraft, you have basically the thickness of a beer car between you and the German flak and bullets. We ll were young,dumb, and bullet proof, but a trip or two over Germany would take that away.
God Bless the Men and Women from that period.


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Re: Historical B-17 movie: The Cold Blue [Re: basketcase] #2658860
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My uncle was the engineer an top turret gunner in a B24. They were shot up badly in their 13th mission and crash landed in Sweden.

Re: Historical B-17 movie: The Cold Blue [Re: Southern Wolf] #2658891
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Darn, didn't get to see it here.
My wife's grandfather was a navigator on a B-24H w 847th Sqn, 489th BG ( https://489th-bomb-group-museum.org/Home/ )

Started training only 19 years old and survived 39 bombing missions over Germany.. which earned him the Distinguished Flying Cross..
Super nice, family guy, told a few good stories. My wife got his memorabilia when he passed away; books, the medal, a money roll, some photos and keepsakes - grandma already threw out his bomber jacket soon as he got home. He saw the first German jet fighters in action, he said they were like watching a science fiction movie ought outside your window, except they were real. Their original training was in a B-24F, then checked into the H. The flight to England took them down to Brazil then across to Africa via the Azores, and up to England. Their squadron lost aircraft and crews just on the crossing, whether lost, ditched, or drowned, they just never arrived.

I built this 1/72 model of his aircraft.
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Re: Historical B-17 movie: The Cold Blue [Re: 67SATisfaction] #2658925
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I gotta see this ! Ron

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I have flown in the Yankee Lady B-17 out this way at the WWII Weekend at Reading, PA, Regional Airport. Awesome! I attend this event every year.

Flights can be booked for several of the aircraft in attendance (B17, B29, B24, B25, SB2C, C47, P40, etc. so get off of your butt and do it! LOL. There will be a REAL Japanese Zero there this year.


Go to their website for all of the info, including almost 2000 reenactors, vehicles, veterans, military gear vendors, special events etc. A fantastic weekend for anyone that has never been there!

www.maam.org Click on WWII Weekend

Bill Rolik

Re: Historical B-17 movie: The Cold Blue [Re: 360view] #2659537
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Stopped at a yard sale on Sunday. 95 cents each.
Moparts is at fault for causing me to splurge on $2 for 2 hours of viewing.
I will stick them in my Go Video VR3840 and try to make DVDs from these older VHS tapes, another 60 cents.

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