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Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: 67Satty] #2658018
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Originally Posted by 67Satty
What the consensus on these rocker arm kits that Mancini sells:

https://www.manciniracing.com/b16alrowibih.html

They are made by Harland Sharp for Mancini and cost $512 for the kit.

fast69plymouth said in a previous thread that they are close in length to the $908 set that Harland Sharp makes for use with Edelbrock (and Trickflow, Sidwinder, Promaxx) heads.



The mancini rockers do not come with the HS hardened shafts (the ones with the screw in plugs on the end) - they come with a set what looks like to me the Mancini Chromed shafts - definately not the HS shafts - overall the entire kit form mancini is a nice budget rocker for a solid tappet cam

Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: BradH] #2658033
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Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: BradH] #2658277
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Originally Posted by BradH
Originally Posted by AndyF
The price sheet shows 440 shafts for $115.

http://www.dechellismachine.com/Promo_11-07.pdf

Yeah... 12 years ago. laugh2

Guess I'll have to callme 'em to get current info.

Thanks. up


Please post the current price (price seems to be per shaft? banana grooved?) when you get the info from them. Thanks beer

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Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: DGS] #2658305
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The 383/400/440 shafts are not banana grooved........

Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: ccdave] #2658346
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Originally Posted by ccdave
The 383/400/440 shafts are not banana grooved........

Only basic holes drilled w/o any elongated channels for distributing the oil to the high-load areas?

Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: BradH] #2658349
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Brad not trying to be a smart@$$. So don't take this that way. But why don't you shoot them all call and talk to them.

Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: HDNMOPERS] #2658365
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I still plan to call 'em. But ccdave's comment was a bit surprising... shruggy

Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: BradH] #2658368
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I understand. From what im seeing. I believe Dechellis will make them anyway you want.

Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: ccdave] #2658378
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Originally Posted by ccdave
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That looks crank journal strong!

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Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: BradH] #2658389
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Originally Posted by BradH

I know Harland Sharp shafts are beefy like the old RAS shafts. However, their oiling holes are drilled differently, so I don't know if that would cause problems w/ oiling at the bottom of the rockers, or if adding grooves would do the trick.


Re Harland Sharp shafts... I haven't had a set in my hands for years. Are their shafts drilled from both the top & bottom, or only the bottom? I can't find any pics that show both sides to be sure. Thx

Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: BradH] #2658453
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Brad, I am currently working out the final rocker arm stage w/Hughes 1.5 cryo treated kit for Victors.They have banana grooved, .190" shafts. I recently purchased these,new, and worked w/ Mike at B3 for geometry correction.Nice and intelligent guy to work with. Very helpful. He had good things to say about the quality of the Hughes shafts, and his work appears spot-on. Hughes website has alot of good information about this, including testimonials from users,one claiming using valvesprings 330#/725# ratings at 7500rpm. $135 pair.
I am using them myself w/285#/670# springs w/.690" roller,also looking at 7500max .Hope this helps. Bill

Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: BradH] #2658454
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Originally Posted by BradH
Originally Posted by BradH

I know Harland Sharp shafts are beefy like the old RAS shafts. However, their oiling holes are drilled differently, so I don't know if that would cause problems w/ oiling at the bottom of the rockers, or if adding grooves would do the trick.


Re Harland Sharp shafts... I haven't had a set in my hands for years. Are their shafts drilled from both the top & bottom, or only the bottom? I can't find any pics that show both sides to be sure. Thx


Yes. Drilled both top and bottom.. So they cant be put on the head wrong. Or that's my guess


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Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: Willie68coronet] #2658486
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The good news is I own the best rocker shafts on the planet. The bad news is because just about
every Mopar guy on the planet that has inquired about the shafts is shocked to hear the price at
115.00 per shaft. Result, they are no longer available. Owner told me they did not sell. Banana groove
or lack there of???? I have used these shafts on at least 6 builds with ZERO issues. Two of those builds
have what I would consider race springs. Matter of fact, the oil holes are smaller than stock! Chrome is
a very very very very hard surface.

On that note, they just moved there shop and once the dust settles they plan on updating their
website and........may reconsider a production run of shafts since they have been getting
lot’s of inquiries for street hemi’s. The set up for the 383-440 shafts is easy when they make
a production run for the street hemi customers....

Next....


Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: ccdave] #2658778
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Originally Posted by ccdave
The good news is I own the best rocker shafts on the planet...

Funny, 'cuz I thought that title belonged to the original RAS shafts. laugh2

They were about $100 each, IIRC; I still have the same pair I've been reusing on a number of builds, but nothing lasts forever. And that's why I started this thread.

Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: BradH] #2658813
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If the RAS shafts are chromed and has your banana grooves then yes, RAS would have your worlds best shaft. I have never seen a RAS shaft. Maybe Andy F knows if they are chromed like my worlds greatest rocker shafts from Dechellis Machine. My bet is RAS shafts are not chromed in that the chroming process is not cheap and 383/400/440 blocks are not used in 10,000 horsepower applications. I really wouldn't sweat this one out Brad. Your rocker arms will be fine with just about any shaft for your application....

Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: ccdave] #2658814
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Yes the RAS shafts are hard chromed. Thats what the 3 week or so hold up for shafts was on my deal. They were waiting on shafts to come back from chrome. Their company name is Rocker Arms Unlimited now.

Re: HD BB rocker arm shafts w/o roller bearing rockers? [Re: ccdave] #2658887
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Why isn't chrome cheap?
It kills baby seals. Have everything chromed in Mexico, where the shop is owned by the Mayor, and the plating drain goes right into the public water system.


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