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hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ #2651942
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Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: dodger mope] #2651958
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I want one for my Challenger! It would give real world results in a pretty well sorted car. For ultra E.T. Al's car!

Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: Dave Hall] #2651967
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What a joke.


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Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: CMcAllister] #2651971
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You wouldn't want to see what it would do in a good car? shruggy

Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: Dave Hall] #2651975
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"At $29,995, the price of the unit includes a water pump, flywheel, oil pan for the front sump, supercharger and throttle body, coil packs, and fuel injector. For an extra $2,265, Hemi also includes an engine kit, which Mopar says "makes for a relatively simple plug-and-play by experienced installers."

What's the cost of a experienced installer going to run? shruggy


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Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: Roughbird72] #2651979
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Originally Posted by Roughbird72
"At $29,995, the price of the unit includes a water pump, flywheel, oil pan for the front sump, supercharger and throttle body, coil packs, and fuel injector. For an extra $2,265, Hemi also includes an engine kit, which Mopar says "makes for a relatively simple plug-and-play by experienced installers."

What's the cost of a experienced installer going to run? shruggy





Isn't that part of the hotrodding culture. Learning how to do something yourself so you can take some PRIDE in what YOU did.


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Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: Dave Hall] #2651989
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Originally Posted by Dave Hall
You wouldn't want to see what it would do in a good car? shruggy


Wasn't referring to you specifically. I know what 1000HP will do in a good car. Just the whole screwed up former Direct Connection, former Mopar Performance operation. It's crap. Announced and debuted last Fall with a big show. Finally released 6 months later. Sold out in 2 days. WTH? $30K? How many were given away to the Trepaniers, Fooses, and Ring Brothers of the world? Are they ever going to build any more? Meanwhile they kick the people who have been loyal to them for decades to the curb. Just a big dog and pony show.


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Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: CMcAllister] #2651995
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Ma Mopar has not been a good mommy for a long time now!

Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: b1dartsport] #2652001
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How many were bought to flip , ya reckon ?
I put the over and under at 80.

Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: pittsburghracer] #2652007
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Originally Posted by pittsburghracer
Originally Posted by Roughbird72
"At $29,995, the price of the unit includes a water pump, flywheel, oil pan for the front sump, supercharger and throttle body, coil packs, and fuel injector. For an extra $2,265, Hemi also includes an engine kit, which Mopar says "makes for a relatively simple plug-and-play by experienced installers."

What's the cost of a experienced installer going to run? shruggy





Isn't that part of the hotrodding culture. Learning how to do something yourself so you can take some PRIDE in what YOU did.


I'm guessing that many of those buying these will have someone else do the work and questioning at what additional cost.


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Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: CMcAllister] #2652036
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I think you are spot on with your comments.

I wonder if there is anyway of knowing how many units it took to become sold out.

Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: SC304] #2652333
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This is total BS!!! I had been waiting to get any pricing and they pull this crap. I doubt they made 10. Just a couple months ago while investigating this for a customer they had only built TWO. WHO built them? How many actually shipped? I have been a MP dealer for years and they cannot send me any fracking Aircleaners but they can produce these in total secret and ship them all over and NOBODY has seen them? Bull feathers!

Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: sasquatch] #2652356
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Originally Posted by sasquatch
This is total BS!!! I had been waiting to get any pricing and they pull this crap. I doubt they made 10. Just a couple months ago while investigating this for a customer they had only built TWO. WHO built them? How many actually shipped? I have been a MP dealer for years and they cannot send me any fracking Aircleaners but they can produce these in total secret and ship them all over and NOBODY has seen them? Bull feathers!



iagree I think if I had 40K to drop on an engine it certainly wouldn't be that one. Maybe they found out that demand was too short at the moment. Once all these late model cars get used and abused there will be more demand. I think the days of introductory pricing are long gone. Get everything you can get, right off the bat! I heard $19,999 at one point when it was a Superbowl commercial? shruggy Now all of a sudden it's 10K more and there are none?

Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: Dave Hall] #2652392
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Next year the electric hemi will be out and the nhra will out law gas Motors so we are going to junk our junk

Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: cesar perez] #2652627
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Sold out because Worman received the only one built at the SEMA debut. Who actually ordered one or received one besides him?


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Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: 6PKRTSE] #2652637
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"Sold out" sounds better than "it wants to run over the crank at anything approaching the advertised power level and the bean counters told us to bail out and save face".

Don't feel too bad, sounds like the Cobra Jet guys are getting hung out as well.


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Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: ZIPPY] #2652677
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I was going to buy twenty seven of them with my paper route money! boogie

Re: hellephant-hemi-sold-out/ [Re: b1dartsport] #2652680
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Originally Posted by b1dartsport
Ma Mopar has not been a good mommy for a long time now!


That's because it's now Father Fiat.

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IMHO Mopar has failed miserably in the sales prediction department for years and years. Around 2000, they had a 2 dr sports coupe on the board but cut it due to a perceived lack of demand. Then they missed the market the first year of the Hellcat by not being able to build nearly enough to meet demand. Then they royally screwed dealers and buyers alike by opening the flood gates on the '16s. Then they opened the order banks on the Wide Bodies, only to run into production problems that limited production to a few hundred. And on and on..................

I'll be they have been very surprised that the Challenger has sold as well as it has year after year. They certainly did not have a clue as to it's overall success.

But their ignorance and disruption of the market has led to a glut of Hellcats and a good amount of bargains. Look at any auto sales site and you will see hundreds of used Hellcats for sale, starting in the low $40k range. Not much more than the Helliphant and it's associated hardware sells for.

Oh Mopar........................


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