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I'm redoing a 68 Road Runner and trying to mock up and fit my panels. These outer wheel houses fit awful. The flange is no where close to the original. I was wondering maybe if AMD designed these to be a repair part instead of a replacement? The flange has an offset and I've seen at least one article where these were installed with the flange to the outside of the inner panel. The inner wheel houses fit pretty darn good from what I can tell, just clamped in place. All my AMD metal so far other than these outers has fit nice. Any thoughts?

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it would proably help if you could post a few pics of issues.

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Originally Posted by Silverbullet2
I'm redoing a 68 Road Runner and trying to mock up and fit my panels. These outer wheel houses fit awful. The flange is no where close to the original. I was wondering maybe if AMD designed these to be a repair part instead of a replacement? The flange has an offset and I've seen at least one article where these were installed with the flange to the outside of the inner panel. The inner wheel houses fit pretty darn good from what I can tell, just clamped in place. All my AMD metal so far other than these outers has fit nice. Any thoughts?



I know there were a few fitment issues with original/early releases of the B body and Charger outer wheelhouse wells, are your purchases recent?, and directly from AMD? or another vendor?, are you sure you have the right PN/application/part(s)?

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I got these from Summit back in the winter, so it's fairly recent. They look the same as the ones on their website (AMD) now. There's a HRM article online about replacing these on a 70 GTX. They saved the inner houses and just cut the outers off leaving the original flange and spotwelds. This replacement from AMD was then welded to the outside of the inner panel on the front side instead of being welded to the inner like original. I wish the pics in that article were better so I could see exactly what he did!

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I've seen at least one article where these were installed with the flange to the outside of the inner panel.


If this means what I think, that would look like crap !!

I bought tubs for my '69 RR last year from Stephen's and the flange did not match the inner tub so the outers needed to be trimmed. I then turned everything over to the guy doing the sheet metal work and he cut the flange lip off completely - that's ok in my application as its being mini tubbed so doesn't have to appear stock.

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It was actually a very neat looking job. It's all finished and sprayed body color before the quarter was finally installed.

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This replacement from AMD was then welded to the outside of the inner panel


Don't understand what you're talking about ... the outer is supposed to be welded to the outer side of the inner tub !!

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Originally Posted by DAYCLONA
Originally Posted by Silverbullet2
I'm redoing a 68 Road Runner and trying to mock up and fit my panels. These outer wheel houses fit awful. The flange is no where close to the original. I was wondering maybe if AMD designed these to be a repair part instead of a replacement? The flange has an offset and I've seen at least one article where these were installed with the flange to the outside of the inner panel. The inner wheel houses fit pretty darn good from what I can tell, just clamped in place. All my AMD metal so far other than these outers has fit nice. Any thoughts?



I know there were a few fitment issues with original/early releases of the B body and Charger outer wheelhouse wells, are your purchases recent?, and directly from AMD? or another vendor?, are you sure you have the right PN/application/part(s)?


I have installed the AMD 68-70 Dodge Charger and Coronet outer wheelhouses, and the fitment was darn near perfect. The alignment holes on the flange even matched up to the inner wheelhouses holes perfectly. The flange to the quarter and the flange of the quarter always need a little tapping here and there, to match up perfectly, even on OEM parts.
I have also installed the Plymouth outers with no issues.

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Thanks for the replies guys. I fussed with it some more this weekend, and I can see now mounting the outer on the outside would make a mess. I believe this outer is just made wrong. The lower front where it attaches to the rocker is an inch or better forward and that's keeping the front radius flange an inch or 2 behind were it should be. Also the rear line up hole visible through the trunk is about an inch low. When those holes are lined up it makes the wheel house too high in the back. Again the new AMD inner wheel house fits perfect. The line up holes line up and there is room for adjusting it for a perfect fit. I'm going to call AMD and see if they will help. I think it's as simple as pulling an inner and outer and seeing if they fit together. I've spent $4-5000 on AMD sheet metal so far and I think they should. And Demon since you've installed some that did fit, hopefully there are some that will. Thanks again!

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Sounds to me like you might have coronet parts.


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Originally Posted by ruderunner
Sounds to me like you might have coronet parts.



This what I asked earlier, if the OP had the correct parts, as there's at least 3 possibly 4 outer wheel wheels for the 68-70 2 nd gen B bodies Ply or Dodge, comparing to a website pic is no guarantee that he has the right part in hand either....

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I got the invoice from when I bought them yesterday. They are 1468s. Dodges are 2468. The fitment issue I'm having is the outer wh to the inner wh. Dodge and Plymouth both use the same inner wh, so even a Dodge outer should fit the inner wh. These don't. If I can get a set that actually fit the inner wh, they will fit the car. Outer to quarter panel fit is another matter.

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I too had some issues with amd outers on a 69 plylmouth. The Rt side is correct and matches the contours of the factory inner wheelhouse especially where it meets the inner wheelhouse flange in front of the roof/sail support. It fits really nice, almost perfect even the holes. However the problem with the Lt outer is that it appears to be missing part of the flange where it attaches to the inner in front of the roof/sail support. The flange isn't "tall" enough to attach the wheelhouse's and interior support together. Also the Rt wheel house at the rear lower has a small extension piece toward the center-line of the car. The Lt doesn't.
After mock up and initial fit I modified the lt outer hoping to solve the issue and noticed that the wheel house was incorrect. So I ordered another one from the same vendor and the second was the same. I then contacted amd direct instead of the vendor. I'm not sure if this is a poor reproduction or miss packaging error. I'm aware that these are "aftermarket" parts and that fit and finish are not a guarantee but this is a bit drastic in my opinion. They did pull one in there inventory and looked the same but the response I got was not what I had expected. Basically telling my to modify the wheel house and make it fit. What pissed me off the most is the fact that the passenger was perfect.
Driver side is the top photo.

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The important points that AMD is missing with their "modify it to fit" response is that:

a) we trust them to supply the best aftermarket sheet metal

Well "best" is relative to what else is out there, so yes, its the best BUT only because the rest is real crap.

b) modifying takes time - either your own or somebody else's.

"time is money". Who wants to pay someone else anywhere from 50 to 100 bucks an hour to modify a part that should fit in the first place !!

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This might not help tbe OP but Ill add my two cents. It seemed like the first years of Dodge outer wheel houses from AMD were thicker and heavier than the ones you get now which feel lighter? I dont know which is better but I used one of the first offerings, the heavier ones, and I didnt use the alignment hole. I remember having to rotate the wheelhouse forward until it fit the quarter nice and then once tacked I trimmed the excess from behind the rocker and drilled a new alignment hole. I do have some of the lighter ones as I call em but have yet to use them. But yeah the old inner and new outer fit good on the flange.

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