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Re: Signs of excessive or abnormal bronze gear wear? [Re: BradH] #2645802
04/16/19 08:02 PM
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From what I remember the mopar ones needed burnishing, aftermarket ones didn`t. That is if IIRC which is hit and miss.LOL BTW, which puller did you get from HF?

Re: Signs of excessive or abnormal bronze gear wear? [Re: mopars4ever] #2645811
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The kit I got is advertised as a bearing puller; the other kit is more "universal", but doesn't have the expanding collet(?) that can be inserted into the hole and tightened to fit the bushing ID.

The MP bushing needs burnishing, the Pioneer brand bushing apparently doesn't (but I have no idea how good the sizing is), and the Dura-bond part I found listed doesn't specify one way or another.

Re: Signs of excessive or abnormal bronze gear wear? [Re: BradH] #2645966
04/17/19 09:58 AM
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I'm not 100% sure, but I thought the "correct " bushing to use with the tool comes from a dealership.
The others have tolerances made to be universal and may not be optimum for all.

Just my failing memory....Joe

Re: Signs of excessive or abnormal bronze gear wear? [Re: BradH] #2646290
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The only one that I could find locally today was a Pioneer. I don't know how much tighter it would get around the shaft after installation, but it's way too loose now. I think I'll order some Dura-Bonds because they're quite a bit less expensive than what I see the MP bushing listed for.

Re: Signs of excessive or abnormal bronze gear wear? [Re: BradH] #2646296
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Brad how much did you spend on the tools?

I have always bought the mopar bushings, but I have about the best dealership for perfomance parts in the west (Glendora Dodge) close by.



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Re: Signs of excessive or abnormal bronze gear wear? [Re: BradH] #2646309
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I use the Pioneer brand, never had a loose ones yet (100+ so far)with no cam installed and driving it into place with a stock iron gear and shaft shruggy scope up
I have seen wear marks on the shafts after running the motors on a engine dyno with a Milidon gear and shaft and the Milidon cast aluminum oil pump using their two external oil line and swinging pickup system shruggy

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Re: Signs of excessive or abnormal bronze gear wear? [Re: Cab_Burge] #2646399
04/18/19 09:56 AM
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I don't know how much tighter it would get around the shaft after installation, but it's way too loose now.


It will compress enough after installation. I imagine there are hundreds of thousands installed and running with no issues. But hey, maybe you got that one in a million that popped out wrong.

Re: Signs of excessive or abnormal bronze gear wear? [Re: Just-a-dart] #2646439
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Originally Posted by Just-a-dart
Brad how much did you spend on the tools?

I have always bought the mopar bushings, but I have about the best dealership for perfomance parts in the west (Glendora Dodge) close by.

I'm into the tools for about $125.

I'll keep the Pioneer on hand as a backup, but just ordered a 5-pack of Dura-Bond which do require broaching. I want to leave less to chance on the sizing when using the bronze gear.

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