Re: Street stroker quench ??
[Re: Stanton]
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Racers have successfully used Cometic gaskets with RA all over the map and copper coat For quite some time now. I realize it's not perfect and it's not recommended by the manufacturer, but sometimes You have to make do....
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Re: Street stroker quench ??
[Re: AndyF]
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On my 512 low deck, I used the .051 Cometic with piston .016 out of the hole.
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Re: Street stroker quench ??
[Re: CSK]
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04/08/19 10:40 PM
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You could probably shave a little off the tops of the pistons. The motor is fully assembled. Thicker custom head gaskets are the easy answer - if deemed necessary.
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Re: Street stroker quench ??
[Re: Stanton]
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just ring Cometic and order the thickness you need . I have 0.040gasket for 0.040-0.042 quench in my 505 , I think i ran 0.037-.0.038 quench on my old 505
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Re: Street stroker quench ??
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You could probably shave a little off the tops of the pistons. The motor is fully assembled. Thicker custom head gaskets are the easy answer - if deemed necessary. Does the person who put the motor together with the pistons sticking out have any ideas on how to solve the problem?
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Re: Street stroker quench ??
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Go through and check all eight pistons at TDC and use a thin bladed screw driver between the tops of the pistons on the cam side and motor mount side to rock the pistons as far over as you can get them both ways and measure the piston height above the decks on the outer edges and go from there If you get .020 or less above the decks I would run it If it is above .022 or more get a thicker head gasket
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Re: Street stroker quench ??
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Does the person who put the motor together with the pistons sticking out have any ideas on how to solve the problem? No he doesn't. It pisses me off that he didn't measure the deck heights and do some basic math before machining things. At some point he could have said it was going to be tight and I would have found another block.
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Re: Street stroker quench ??
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How close is the top ring to the deck? Is there a bevel at the top of the bore? The difference between where the piston is supposed to sit at TDC (-.009) and where it is (+.016) is not enough to matter about the ring or bevel.
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Re: Street stroker quench ??
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Big bore, short piston........ I’d be shooting for around .050 piston to head clearance.
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Re: Street stroker quench ??
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Does the person who put the motor together with the pistons sticking out have any ideas on how to solve the problem? No he doesn't. It pisses me off that he didn't measure the deck heights and do some basic math before machining things. At some point he could have said it was going to be tight and I would have found another block. Yeah that is a bummer. Typically I'd get a call from the engine builder saying "um, your block is a little short. What should we do". I'd be pissed if I showed up and the pistons were sticking out of the holes since now you have limited options.
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Re: Street stroker quench ??
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KInd of had the same scenario with the R1 block in my car. When we put it together the pistons were out of the hole, machine shop forgot to say that the block needed a little more taken off to square it up. We were able to fix the issue with .056 cometic gaskets. I will say the cometic have worked great and I will re use them after this top end refresh.
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