Re: Budget bracket duster build?
[Re: Smoparmike]
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04/05/19 03:24 PM
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MR_P_BODY
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have my P-BODY for sale pretty cheap..its about 1800#.. was 2400# race weight SB and me at the line.. you can put a BB in it with minor changes( I was gonna)
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Re: Budget bracket duster build?
[Re: Smoparmike]
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04/05/19 03:27 PM
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DusterKid
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An 8 3/4 will live, but I'd opt for a Dana personally that way you wouldn't have to worry about breaking it. We ran a 29.5x11.5 on the mini tub duster. I run 31x14 on my back half ladder bar car, but could go alot wider if needed. As long as the rear frame rails are good a mini tub would be okay for what your trying to do. Putting a BB in an A body and easy to work on is not simplest. We have the inner fenders removed on my car and snout bars going from the cage to the frame tying in the shock tower. Run TTI headers, they fit nice, but is nice in some spots. Before we caged it we ran fenderwell headers and they were SO much easier to work with but limited you on the front tire size. As far as weight my 2 dusters are
1975 back half ladder bar, dana 60 440 with alum heads, intake, full cage, only fiberglass is bumpers - 2950 lbs 1973 mini tubed dana 60 360 alum heads, all steel - 3040lbs
both cars retain factory dash, interior panels and have carpet on the floor.
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Re: Budget bracket duster build?
[Re: Smoparmike]
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04/06/19 10:01 AM
04/06/19 10:01 AM
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Dragula
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Looking for advice for building a duster bracket car. My goals are to run 10.0s or close, must be easy to work on. I have a 70 Duster body an iron headed 440 and 727 trans 4.56 8 3/4. With that driveline my 3700lb belvedere ran a best of 10.88 and avg 11.0. I plan on running ladder bars and coil over shocks. What is best back half car or mini tub? For the front end I want to remove at least inner fenders or removable front clip? Any other advise? Thanks Mike I run a Duster, and any advise I have, is generally not budget friendly, but,,,,its all in the name of making it easier to work on. I run a BBM in mine with 4.56 gears, but with a Dana and a 33" tall tire....This car is 2700lbs and would torch an 8-3/4....Heck I already torched one Dana....Put a Dana or a 9" in it....Or even neater idea, a Winters quick change if fits and its a streeter.. You will need somthing to hold up. 10.0's is under what I would use an 8-3/4 for. Ladder bars I like, easy to work on and easy to tune. Use a good set of double adjustable coil overs like Viking and you are good. Front end, I like you plan, but one item I can't live without for ease of working on the car is a MagnumForce front end.....or the RMS version.....No torsion bars, no steering linkage to go thru the pan, no header clearance issues....and its light! I know, there goes the budget, but the ability to work on the car is 100% more friendly....Both of my cars have these on them.
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Re: Budget bracket duster build?
[Re: J_BODY]
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04/06/19 10:54 AM
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In my p-body I run a alum center 8-3/4.. its strong and light but when I built my Rampage I put a 9" in it.. the cost of the alum center unit now days isnt worth the price.. I went that direction to make the car light.. its a all moly 4-link with struts in the front.. I'm thinking about putting it back on the street but I have to buy another shadow so I can get a Vin from it.. I have the title but I tossed the dash when I built the car
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Re: Budget bracket duster build?
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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04/06/19 03:41 PM
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I like the mini tub, ladderbar combo, combined with a coilover shock and rack combo up front to provide the extra room for working on the motor. If i ever build another chassis, i would look into a Mustang 2 style front end, since they are available from a number of sources, and universal fit. My other option would be a strut front from Strange. These options might sound spendy till you add up the cost of going through the stock front end, and adding disc brakes, plus converting to a 4.5 bolt circle up front. And every last extra $$ spent on the strut upgrade would most likely show up in resale value. A mild steel cage would accommodate the strut or M2 style front, and allow you to modify the firewall for some engine setback which will help consistancy. Oil pan options are much better too. I would put the 440 block up for sale and start with a 400 based 512 cube combo. The wider header options may save $$ over what a stock front would require, so figure that in when calculating the front suspension and cage cost. Have the pistons cut for 2.25 /1.81 valve sizes and deep enough to accommodate a 440-1 head cut to 60 cc, and equiped with a BIG roller cam in mind. That way you can start with whatever budget allows for heads, but can upgrade to a head capable of 9.0s without having to change the shortblock.
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Re: Budget bracket duster build?
[Re: Smoparmike]
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04/06/19 04:01 PM
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Looking for advice for building a duster bracket car. My goals are to run 10.0s or close, must be easy to work on. I have a 70 Duster body an iron headed 440 and 727 trans 4.56 8 3/4. With that driveline my 3700lb belvedere ran a best of 10.88 and avg 11.0. I plan on running ladder bars and coil over shocks. What is best back half car or mini tub? For the front end I want to remove at least inner fenders or removable front clip? Any other advise? Thanks Mike If you are happy running low 10’s follow some of the suggestions on getting the front end upgrades, aim for 2800 pounds or less, caltracs or ladderbar, and a stock crank 360 with TrickFlow heads will get you there. Build it into a 408 and easy 9’s are in your future. You will love working on the small block compaired to a big block.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: Budget bracket duster build?
[Re: J_BODY]
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04/07/19 07:23 AM
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Only thing I still hate are the top two trans bolts.... I have a two piece removable trans tunnel When I added the CSR shield to my car I was forced to knock some holes in the firewall to get to the bell housing bolts. I wish I did that 24 years ago when I got the car.
68 Barracuda Formula S 340
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Re: Budget bracket duster build?
[Re: Smoparmike]
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04/08/19 12:37 PM
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Cab_Burge
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No 9s for me. I can't get NHRA liscence Why not? Are you aware that NHRA now allows you to self certified on the medical exam like the FAA is doing now on some pilot medical exams
Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
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