They do. You just have to shell out some loot. Goss’s engine is a 478” what’s a few more cubes?

How dare you insult the glorious beauty of the elusive purple shaft!

(The nap sounds like a good idea though)

We're not all mad. I'd love to build a gen 3, at this point I'm not sure what will work together. Plus as others have stated I haven't seen many fast n/a, boosted is a whole different game.

If I can't run 8.60's with a power adder its for sale. NA separates the men from the boys for an apples to apples comparison.

That's the car/combo that got my attention.

UH...HEADS UP , EVERYTHING SEPERATES MEN FROM BOYS, DONT MATTER WHAT YOU GOT, IT ITS NOT ENOUGH THATS YOUR PROBLEM.....

NOBODY REALLY CARES IF YOU GOT A POWER ADDER OR NOT...LOL

HEADS UP ALSO DONT REALLY RACE 1/4 , WE ARE GOING TO BE RACING 1/8....

Impressed? Not really. However, I like seeing the various builds based on them.

How much of a production engine could be reused to build something akin to the 426 Drag Pak engine? Or is the Drag Pak different enough in quality or design of parts that "You can't get there from here!"?

OK, but Pls let me 'splain something here...

Dude, you HAD the chance to buy it and I waited on Mike to give you the time to come up with the dough.

Anyways... The car is rebuilt ( shocks, brakes, coilover HDK LCAs, bodywork, seats, belts and fuel sys) and has the same worn out KB low deck / B1 47cc head motor it came with back installed. Even has the fogger with 250 jets. Headers, and also mufflers, are the issue. Plus wiring which my old bones don't do anymore very well. The cam is cut down, compression at 10-1, Thumper on the 1050 carb. Damn headers are burned too thin (2 1/4 OD BTW into a 4 1/2 collector) and getting store bought headers on the mega / Indy 540 or the 500 have been the issue. BTW, there ain't no Mopar shops around here to put the car in, my airplane needs the wing fixed before I can fly it again, the airstrip is almost ready to seed after 3 yrs of work and a bunch of dirtwork (by me with eqpt I had to buy), and then it all needs mowing but that is the end goal as I am retired.

I want a shop that can get ahold of one of these blown motors and get it in the car. I have too many irons in the fire to do it myself now. That Demon isn't done by a long shot and if this isn't happening by this summer the car will be the platform for my 68 fish's 416 SB, 904, K frame and brakes, cause that car is also sitting.

We have a very fast 1/8 mi track 5 odometer miles from my shop. This is the race that car should own. Priorities I suppose. I want it going, believe me. Have more cash than time I guess.

http://www.radialfest.com/king-of-the-streets-info/

I had to laugh when I opened the box for this new gen3 Hemi cam and it had purple paint on it

One Friday night last year I was towing my 65 Dodge Hemi Nostalgia Super Stock up to Keystone Raceway Park for a test and tune. On Rt. 22 on the way up, I was passed by a black Dodge Challenger with a parachute on the back. I thought "what in the world is this"......he was cruising in the fast lane with a guy and his wife in it. I got to Keystone, made a couple of test and tune passes, and went up in the tower to see my pal Jim. When I was up there, this Challenger came out of the street lanes and clicked off a 9.24 at 154 mph. He came back, put his cooler in the trunk, the man and his wife climbed in and went out the gate and drove home. Now, it would take a real hard guy not to be impressed by that......

A platform that makes 700+ horsepower using OEM head castings and block normally aspirated is nothing to sneeze at. With a hydraulic roller camshaft no less. There's not a LA engine that can do that.

However, until someone solves the head's ability to take large diameter springs, we're not going to see 3HP per cube from this platform. They'd make enough power for 99% of the people on this forum

Gentleman it's called technology things are progressing on a daily basis.. there is no easy way to go fast.. nor cheap. Text lots of money to run low eighths in high 7 I don't care how you slice it or what's under the hood.. The Late Model blower stuff is definitely impressive in my opinion.... I can't believe just a dart . Was actually able to find a purple shaft for his gen 3 way to go

We have all followed Andys mostly stock block big block builds ranging from 600-900 horsepower NA. I'm not to mention a Name but one of our members drives a 68-69 Dodge Charger with a Hemi that runs 9.50's NA and 8.90's@156 MPH (not a lite weight) and has do so for years. If we are going to compare new school builds with some having 2 power adders (nitrous assisted) we gotta mention the old school stuff with a power adder. most of Andy's builds hit 800 PLUS NA with TrickFlow or Indy heads. Just think what he could do with B1's or MC B1's. add a power adder and we better all sit down for those numbers. The small blocks some of our guys are builder are off the hook with the way they run so there is no right or wrong way to go about it. The one thing I do get tired of hearing is guys complaining about owning "fat cars". Well there is a way to fix that issue too if you really want to go fast.

is the unnamed Charger black? If so, yes very impressive car, but a 604 ci HEMI isn't something that average Joe can afford. I know I don't have the scratch to build. Put that kinda money into a gen-3...... who knows how fast it could be. In the end build what ya want, how ya want, Na / forced / juice its all good!

A few things come to mind here:
I think everyone here with a little knowledge has their own thoughts on Andy's dyno numbers...
Are you implying that a stock block build is a great idea when targeting 600-900 horsepower??
Don't Sixpackgut and Steff both have pump gas STREET cars that weigh significantly more than your tin can bracket car and run the same or faster 1/4 mile ET?

I'm not getting into this argument, but just wanted to let you guys know I ran a new best about 3 or so weeks ago at SGMP with my NA 401" Gen 3 Hemi, in my 70 Road Runner STREET Car. I ran a 9.53 @ 138.4 with a 1.28 60ft.

Carry On!! \m/ \m/

That is awesome Steff! I have liked your car for years, and I know it is street driven. Pretty damn cool in my book.

I’m just stating the facts buddy. Don’t use mine as a comparison because it’s built as a weekly bracket racer with a solid lifter cam and a 850 carb. Not one trick go fast part on my engine. Heck I still run old school ring pacs. The test n tuners running the coastal states with killer air won’t even go out if the conditions aren’t in their favor. I’m not sure what’s up with Rays barracuda as I haven’t heard times from it in decades. Some of you still aren’t hearing me say I think the Gen3 is a great package and can run some great numbers but I also see guys having fitness issues a diving in before it’s planned out. I grew out of having powerful street cars over 30 years ago so for me personally a 10-11 second NA street car doesn’t interest me. Maybe it will when I get older to keep racing.

Congrats Steff, that's flying! Fast street/strip cars always impress me. I'd be interested in what your 401 build is if you don't mind sharing.

Anybody can make a flyweight fast.

You must have me confused w/ someone else...I never tried to buy that car, never made an offer, nothing. Saw it for sale, drooled over the pics b/c it was an awesome car that I remember seeing it when it actually ran, but that's it.