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Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: radar] #2634914
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She runs through the gears turning tires like she should! Quick rev on the brake went to 2500 which seems right for a big motor in front of the 2400 holeshot converter. Now to get back to tuning and figuring out what she likes to make fire for a cold start. Gonna go around the block a few times then change the oil. Can’t wait to put her back on the ground to move under her own power for the first time since last summer!

Thanks everybody for your time and thoughts I greatly appreciate being part of this community

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Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: radar] #2634916
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Hey Radar we have all had those moments and honestly probably will till the day we die. At least you aren't paying someone to do those mistakes for you because that happens too. Keep on moving forward with your head up and enjoy the Summer. Ohhh by the way we had a post on Moparts about some of OUR screw-ups and trust me we have ALL done some real dozies. LOL. Some guys just won't admit to it.


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Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: pittsburghracer] #2634941
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Like others have said at least you had the stones to try it yourself! good job don't worry about messing that up it will make you pay more attention next time you are into something technical.


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Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: aspenrt360] #2634950
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Good Job! I was leaning toward broken tangs too but was an easy fix

Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: radar] #2635015
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Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: radar] #2635028
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Originally Posted by radar
She runs through the gears turning tires like she should! Quick rev on the brake went to 2500 which seems right for a big motor in front of the 2400 holeshot converter. Now to get back to tuning and figuring out what she likes to make fire for a cold start. Gonna go around the block a few times then change the oil. Can’t wait to put her back on the ground to move under her own power for the first time since last summer!

Thanks everybody for your time and thoughts I greatly appreciate being part of this community

Happy but a little red in the face,
Radar


I been building transmissions for 40 years now, and I still get a funny tingle when I put it in gear the first time. 99% of the time they work, but every once in a while something wierd happens. If you are going to keep fixing transmissions buy yourself a gauge set. Harbor freight has some cheap. A gauge reading and understanding what pressure is supposed to be, will help you fix that 1% much quicker. And that lesson you just learned will be with you forever, those that never make a mistake are those that never do anything.

Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: jwb123] #2635166
03/21/19 11:34 AM
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that's much better then going to bolt the torque converter up and there is no flexplate on the engine, don't ask :):)
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Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: 440lebaron] #2635271
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Yikes!
Nothing like having to take out and reinstall the trans a second time... mad

Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: actionange] #2635511
03/22/19 10:39 AM
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hey radar ! don't feel too bad. i have found out the older i get, the dumber i become. biggrin bonehead moves on my part happen frequently.
glad ya got it figgered out ! up
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Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: moparx] #2635575
03/22/19 01:00 PM
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Thanks fellas. Since the trans fix cost $17 for a clean new drain pan so I could reuse the minty atf I celebrated by ordering some dynamat xtreme to dampen some of the resonance in the cab. It wouldn’t catch R yesterday- found the trans finally finished burping. Adding some atf seems to have got it shifting nicely again.

I hate adding trans fluid- once the dipstick tube is used as a filler neck the stick just always comes back wet. Tomorrow I will check it again. I’m at 10.5 quarts which seems right.

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Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: radar] #2635615
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I hope you can get things moving again and enjoy your ride.


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Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: radar] #2635730
03/22/19 10:52 PM
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Make sure and check it in neutral with warm to hot fluids up


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Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: radar] #2635972
03/23/19 03:46 PM
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How long did you run it before pulling the VB? I'm wondering how much damage was done to the pump running it "dry".


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Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: John_Kunkel] #2636231
03/24/19 12:28 AM
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Hi John. It ran for 25-30 mins before I dropped the pan and removed the valve body. I always assemble oil pumps with grease so they have good suction and are not dry on start up. The blue sticky trans building grease was applied liberally and when I pulled the VB the trans lost a good pint or more of clean unburnt atf from the holes above the valve body so it did get some lube slung around, just never built any pressure.

It still isn’t a proven rebuild but I’m optimistic. It shifts well in D and had trouble hitting R a couple times before I topped it off. Still gotta try out the tf2 kit & ratchet slap shifter. Should bark out some nice upshifts if I shift manually and keep it above stall speed. It’s been raining here and my work week centers around fri/sat. So I haven’t been able to get out for testing and shakedowns. I’m itching and nervous to beat on it a little around the neighborhood to test it out and seat the rings before the post break in oil change.

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Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: radar] #2636460
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Pic says it all 😎

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Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: radar] #2636570
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Originally Posted by radar
Pic says it all 😎

This picture says, Beware, wild man ahead whistling devil grin


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Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: Cab_Burge] #2637052
03/25/19 05:21 PM
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After topping off the atf and getting the synchronization perfect on the shifter cable Reverse hasn’t acted up since. It still doesn’t pop into reverse as solidly as it does in drive though. Maybe it could use a band adjustment to be perfect. As song as it consistently goes backwards when I want to leave a parking spot I’m good. It had more of a shudder while reversing before which is mostly gone.

When I was in there I should have re-checked the band adjustment. The piston and spring looked good to my untrained eye though. I’m not in a hurry to drop the trans pan and valve body again. Gotta get some more seat time!

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Re: Think I fried a fresh 727 on break in [Re: radar] #2637200
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I just had my tranny rebuilt, had a deep pan on it, when I pulled pan to diagnose converter locking up at stop signs. Guess what, filter spacer was on 180 degrees off. It was done by a shop that should have known better. Don’t beat yourself up. Jim


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