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Re: Anyone talked to Bob at Modern Cylinder Head?
[Re: AndyF]
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03/14/19 09:04 PM
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Wow! this is not a good thing to hear at the very least it is not pro at all!
2013 Chrysler 300 touring 1974 Dodge Charger SE. 360-727-8.75-3.23 sure grip 1972 Dodge Dart Swinger 1995 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4
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Re: Anyone talked to Bob at Modern Cylinder Head?
[Re: GY3]
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03/14/19 10:01 PM
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I would never do business with them. A friend sent heads there 4 years ago and nothing but excuses. Still no heads.
Real Men shift for themselves
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Re: Anyone talked to Bob at Modern Cylinder Head?
[Re: GY3]
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03/15/19 12:11 AM
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Between a rock & a hard place
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Wow, kinda like you guys never answering my e-mails when your balancer I bought from you came apart?!  Lol! KARMA calling on line 1. Doh...
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Re: Anyone talked to Bob at Modern Cylinder Head?
[Re: cudadoug]
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03/15/19 01:29 AM
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Well,
I hope this gets resolved, certainly not good news for anyone. I hate to see anyone who is in the business of supplying the Mopar hobby with parts and services fail.
Love the set of Modern CNC ported Stealths I own.
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Re: Anyone talked to Bob at Modern Cylinder Head?
[Re: Chip]
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03/15/19 11:05 AM
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Dad contacted them to get pricing on CNC work for a pair of small block Eddies early this Winter. They picked up. 
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Re: Anyone talked to Bob at Modern Cylinder Head?
[Re: cudadoug]
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03/15/19 11:18 AM
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Wow, kinda like you guys never answering my e-mails when your balancer I bought from you came apart?! Lol! KARMA calling on line 1. Doh... The sad part is, I've been a big proponent of 440Source (here and on Facebook) for a long time and use their heads, water pump housing, water pump, oil pan/pickup and other parts. I run the snot out of their stuff and have put together a pretty fast/reliable street car with their parts. I really didn't expect them to do anything about it but a response after spending thousands of $ and referring thousands more their way would have been nice! On the other hand Bob at Modern Cylinder Head answered my email and had my heads ported and sent back to me within 2 weeks! I think it is pretty clear which business will never get another dime of my money!
'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Anyone talked to Bob at Modern Cylinder Head?
[Re: GY3]
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03/15/19 11:38 AM
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Wow, kinda like you guys never answering my e-mails when your balancer I bought from you came apart?! Good reply. 2 valuables lessons taught...don't ever deal with 440 Source, and don't skimp on the balancer (go with ATI)
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Re: Anyone talked to Bob at Modern Cylinder Head?
[Re: BradH]
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03/15/19 11:55 AM
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I have been waiting on Bob to machine my SS Hemi heads since June 2016. I sent him $2k to buy the castings, another $2k in a progress payment when he said he was pulling the seats and going to start welding them. That was late 2016, I drove up to Detroit in the summer of 2017. Bob told me he was going to start on them "next week". I guess next week is like tomorrow, it never comes. I wouldn't pay Bob anything up front. I had Jeff do two sets of heads (bracket Hemi and W2s) and had good luck with Jeff. I filed a complaint with the BBB on MCH. The Michigan State Attorney General is next for me.
I've sent dozens of e-mails and left messages on the MCH machine. No replies at all. I may have to show up with the local police at some point.
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Re: Anyone talked to Bob at Modern Cylinder Head?
[Re: BradH]
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03/15/19 12:07 PM
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Wow, kinda like you guys never answering my e-mails when your balancer I bought from you came apart?! Is that their SFI Fluidamper-style? If so, another Moparts member had one start to come apart on the dyno. He figured it out when he went to check the ignition timing and found the outer ring had slipped and started to come loose. If it's any type of fluid filled damper it can't come apart like the picture posted above.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: Anyone talked to Bob at Modern Cylinder Head?
[Re: GY3]
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03/15/19 01:13 PM
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Wow, kinda like you guys never answering my e-mails when your balancer I bought from you came apart?! Lol! KARMA calling on line 1. Doh... The sad part is, I've been a big proponent of 440Source (here and on Facebook) for a long time and use their heads, water pump housing, water pump, oil pan/pickup and other parts. I run the snot out of their stuff and have put together a pretty fast/reliable street car with their parts. I really didn't expect them to do anything about it but a response after spending thousands of $ and referring thousands more their way would have been nice! On the other hand Bob at Modern Cylinder Head answered my email and had my heads ported and sent back to me within 2 weeks! I think it is pretty clear which business will never get another dime of my money! I am sorry you sent an email that was not responded to, however it was likely a technical glitch, not an affront on your personal character. Kim Burns was in charge of technical emails, and he retired last month after more than 14 years on the job here. I am not familiar with your situation, but it's likely that we either never received the email, it went into junk mail for some reason, or it was on one of those days where we get hundreds of emails and it just got lost in the mix somehow. In any case, we have a tech line that is staffed 40 hours a week with real people willing to help, you could have easily picked up the phone at any time and given us a call and someone would have been here to address your concern.
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Re: Anyone talked to Bob at Modern Cylinder Head?
[Re: mr_340]
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03/15/19 01:31 PM
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I have been waiting on Bob to machine my SS Hemi heads since June 2016. I sent him $2k to buy the castings, another $2k in a progress payment when he said he was pulling the seats and going to start welding them. That was late 2016, I drove up to Detroit in the summer of 2017. Bob told me he was going to start on them "next week". I guess next week is like tomorrow, it never comes. I wouldn't pay Bob anything up front. I had Jeff do two sets of heads (bracket Hemi and W2s) and had good luck with Jeff. I filed a complaint with the BBB on MCH. The Michigan State Attorney General is next for me.
I've sent dozens of e-mails and left messages on the MCH machine. No replies at all. I may have to show up with the local police at some point. I was in a similar situation lately with a business. Had to get serious with them but I did get my refund. it is amazing how some of these places are so willing to take your money and then never expect to deliver on their promises.
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Re: Anyone talked to Bob at Modern Cylinder Head?
[Re: 440sourcedotcom]
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03/15/19 01:38 PM
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Wow, kinda like you guys never answering my e-mails when your balancer I bought from you came apart?! Lol! KARMA calling on line 1. Doh... The sad part is, I've been a big proponent of 440Source (here and on Facebook) for a long time and use their heads, water pump housing, water pump, oil pan/pickup and other parts. I run the snot out of their stuff and have put together a pretty fast/reliable street car with their parts. I really didn't expect them to do anything about it but a response after spending thousands of $ and referring thousands more their way would have been nice! On the other hand Bob at Modern Cylinder Head answered my email and had my heads ported and sent back to me within 2 weeks! I think it is pretty clear which business will never get another dime of my money! I am sorry you sent an email that was not responded to, however it was likely a technical glitch, not an affront on your personal character. Kim Burns was in charge of technical emails, and he retired last month after more than 14 years on the job here. I am not familiar with your situation, but it's likely that we either never received the email, it went into junk mail for some reason, or it was on one of those days where we get hundreds of emails and it just got lost in the mix somehow. In any case, we have a tech line that is staffed 40 hours a week with real people willing to help, you could have easily picked up the phone at any time and given us a call and someone would have been here to address your concern. So, you know about the problem now and you've still done nothing to address it other than place the blame on your email system and a guy that recently retired?!
Last edited by GY3; 03/15/19 01:40 PM.
'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Anyone talked to Bob at Modern Cylinder Head?
[Re: Lee446]
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03/15/19 03:01 PM
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GY3, you forgot to add that you got some of the blame too! A common tactic nowadays and it never looks good. Better to be silent, Shame on me for thinking they would want an e-mail with pictures for proof of said failure of their product. 
'63 Dodge 330
11.19 @ 121 mph
Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs.
10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.
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Re: Anyone talked to Bob at Modern Cylinder Head?
[Re: GY3]
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03/15/19 03:10 PM
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GY3, you forgot to add that you got some of the blame too! A common tactic nowadays and it never looks good. Better to be silent, Shame on me for thinking they would want an e-mail with pictures for proof of said failure of their product. give them a call instead of bashing them on here.
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