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Column shift with Bucket Seats? #2627288 02/28/19 10:55 PM 02/28/19 10:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,781 Keymar, MD DusterKid OP top fuel
DusterKid OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,781 Keymar, MD	I'm working on my 69 barracuda notchback and noticed something strange. When I bought the car it was a auto on the column but had bucket seats in it. I just assumed that the previous owner swapped out the bench for the buckets as he was intending to installed a console shifter. After looking over the fender tag the car was a factory bucket seat car with shifter on the column. How odd/rare is that combo?

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2627295 02/28/19 11:05 PM 02/28/19 11:05 PM
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BigMoneyLewis master Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,247 Alabama	Not uncommon at all . In fact, three of the neatest cars I have owned personally were all column shift auto's with bucket seats , and no fold down arm rest (buddy seat). 70 Charger R/T SE Sublime green ,dealer demonstrator, 1970 Challenger R/T , hemi orange, 440 six pack , lots of options , and 1971 GTX ,curious yellow . I was told once that it was a common configuration on dealer demos because it made the interior appear bigger . I don't know if that is true or not . Greg gregward@mchsi.com phone 256-852-0955

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2627303 02/28/19 11:15 PM 02/28/19 11:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,507 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,507 A collage of whims	Had a '68 Charger R/T with column auto, buckets (of course) & buddy seat, and as Lewis says, it doesn't seem to be particularly rare.

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2627309 02/28/19 11:30 PM 02/28/19 11:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,679 Hamtramck, PA A Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer
Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,679 Hamtramck, PA	One of my 4-doors has buckets & column shift.

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2627314 02/28/19 11:36 PM 02/28/19 11:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,943 North Dakota 6PakBee I Live Here
6PakBee I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,943 North Dakota	Sold a '69 GTS Dart that was a column automatic bucket car. "We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2627352 03/01/19 01:04 AM 03/01/19 01:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,460 Highland, MI. Sunroofcuda master
Sunroofcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,460 Highland, MI.	My '72 Cuda is column shift. No Man With A Good Car Needs To Be Justified

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2627359 03/01/19 01:22 AM 03/01/19 01:22 AM
Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,578 Macomb, MI V vinnyd76 pro stock
vinnyd76 pro stock V Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 1,578 Macomb, MI	I have a 70 Dart GT with bucket seats and a column shift. I was surprised when the A-Body arrived from Cali on the transport carrier with the combo. I expected a bench seat. The fender tag and build sheet confirmed combo. The restoration shop did not believe a Dart GT existed in 70, but their uncertainty was cleared up with decoding of the fender tag.

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2627372 03/01/19 01:58 AM 03/01/19 01:58 AM
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Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,903 Florida	DusterKid, Checked your PM's?

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: vinnyd76] #2627373 03/01/19 02:01 AM 03/01/19 02:01 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,547 Las Vegas, NV 6bblgt I Live Here
6bblgt I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,547 Las Vegas, NV	some cars have bucket seats STANDARD & once someone ponies up ~$200 for the automatic transmission - sometimes the additional ~$50 for the console isn't in the budget

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2627387 03/01/19 03:20 AM 03/01/19 03:20 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,688 Fresno, CA Jim_Lusk I Live Here
Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,688 Fresno, CA	I don't have any good pics. except of the fender tag, but our '68 GTS convertible has the optional buckets (bench was standard in Dart convertibles) with a column auto.

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2627396 03/01/19 04:35 AM 03/01/19 04:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,334 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,334 Park Forest, IL	I had a teacher in high school who had a '71 R/T Challenger that was a column shift with buckets. When she got married her husband made her trade it in on a 4 door Nova. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2627416 03/01/19 10:05 AM 03/01/19 10:05 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,781 Keymar, MD DusterKid OP top fuel
DusterKid OP top fuel Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,781 Keymar, MD	Didn't realize they were so common. I just assumed that if it had buckets it made sense to have a console shifter to take up the space between the seats. Guess I never really paid that much attention to interiors before.

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2627433 03/01/19 11:22 AM 03/01/19 11:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,263 New York rarefish top fuel
rarefish top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,263 New York	I just realized, to the best of my knowledge, the A-bodies never had a buddy seat option with buckets. It was just a B and C-Body option?

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: rarefish] #2627448 03/01/19 12:01 PM 03/01/19 12:01 PM
Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 398 Milan Ohio C ct440rod enthusiast
ct440rod enthusiast C Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 398 Milan Ohio	70 challenger R/T 440 magnum .. column shift bucket seats . .

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2627467 03/01/19 12:41 PM 03/01/19 12:41 PM
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Sunroofcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,460 Highland, MI.	I remember looking at & driving a 71 Challenger R/T 383 that was for sale in Phoenix back in the mid-80's. It was buckets with column shift auto. Shoulda bought that car too - it was all original but my business partner insulted the guy with a lowball offer that pissed the guy off. No Man With A Good Car Needs To Be Justified

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2627497 03/01/19 01:27 PM 03/01/19 01:27 PM
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68Cbarge master Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,535 Canuckville	Most C bodies of the 60's/70's that came standard with bucket seats (300,Monaco 500,Sport Fury) had column shift with buddy seat. ya want console,floor shift? you pony up the moulah to get that. I had seen 69 GTX/ Coronet R/T (bucket seats standard) without any buddy seat nor console. Both optional,but correct me if I am wrong. '68 Newport Custom Barge on a Budget!! BOAB 1973 Satellite WAGON! 318- 3 on the tree!! 2008 Chrysler 300c HEMI!

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2627531 03/01/19 02:32 PM 03/01/19 02:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,386 Houston,Tx. L Lee446 pro stock
Lee446 pro stock L Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,386 Houston,Tx.	I can tell you how some of them came that way. I bought a 69RR in 72 from a neighbor who ordered it new in 69. He ordered it with bucket seats, auto with console. Salesman goofed up on the order form and it came in as Bucket seat/column auto/no console/no buddy seat. He was mightily PO'd, but they discounted the car $200, which was almost 3 months car payment back then, so he took it. I am sure that more than one salesman screwed up checking off the boxes on the order forms and is possibly why so many of them exist. Last edited by Lee446; 03/01/19 02:33 PM.

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: ct440rod] #2627602 03/01/19 05:20 PM 03/01/19 05:20 PM
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I_bleed_MOPAR master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,686 Buford, GA	Originally Posted By ct440rod 70 challenger R/T 440 magnum .. column shift bucket seats . . Same here except mine was a 383. Looked at a '71 that was loaded, 383, luggage rack, vinyl top,a/c, and buckets w/ auto on the column. Tim '71 Charger 383/727 '17 Challenger SXT (Wifeys car )

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2627641 03/01/19 07:19 PM 03/01/19 07:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,263 New York rarefish top fuel
rarefish top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,263 New York	In 1969 both the Polara 500 and Monoco 500 came standard with buckets and a center arm rest. The console was a no cost option for both models. https://www.hamtramck-historical.com/ima..._Polara0009.jpg https://www.hamtramck-historical.com/ima..._Polara0008.jpg

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: rarefish] #2627679 03/01/19 10:01 PM 03/01/19 10:01 PM
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6PAX master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,731 Detroit area	The 68 Dart GT I used to own had buckets with a column shift. My 67 GTX has that set-up too except it has a buddy seat.

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: Lee446] #2627777 03/02/19 02:33 AM 03/02/19 02:33 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,688 Fresno, CA Jim_Lusk I Live Here
Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,688 Fresno, CA	Originally Posted By Lee446 I can tell you how some of them came that way. I bought a 69RR in 72 from a neighbor who ordered it new in 69. He ordered it with bucket seats, auto with console. Salesman goofed up on the order form and it came in as Bucket seat/column auto/no console/no buddy seat. He was mightily PO'd, but they discounted the car $200, which was almost 3 months car payment back then, so he took it. I am sure that more than one salesman screwed up checking off the boxes on the order forms and is possibly why so many of them exist. Could be that's why many of them came that way, but not my GTS. It was a sales bank car. That and being sold new in Detroit are probably why it didn't sell until May 1969 (Aug 1967 SPD).

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: slantzilla] #2627787 03/02/19 03:10 AM 03/02/19 03:10 AM
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VegasCharger enthusiast Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 368 Akron, Ohio	Originally Posted By slantzilla I had a teacher in high school who had a '71 R/T Challenger that was a column shift with buckets. When she got married her husband made her trade it in on a 4 door Nova. Strange.....usually it's the other way around where wifey tells hubby to sell his toy in exchange for a family vehicle lol.

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2628082 03/02/19 10:39 PM 03/02/19 10:39 PM
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fast68plymouth I Live Here F Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,539 So. Burlington, Vt.	Many many years ago I had a 70RR that was a pretty stripped down car. Manual steering & brakes. Did have an AM radio and vinyl roof though. Buckets, no console, auto on the column. My 68 Satellite....... also manual steering and brakes....... is kind of the opposite of buckets and a column auto. It’s a 4 speed with a bench(383 4bbl). 68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2628085 03/02/19 10:59 PM 03/02/19 10:59 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 232 Alberta Canada PossessedDuster enthusiast
PossessedDuster enthusiast Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 232 Alberta Canada	My 71 Duster 340 was bucket seats column shift.

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2628132 03/03/19 12:51 AM 03/03/19 12:51 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,621 Downtown Roebuck Ont Twostick Still wishing...
Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,621 Downtown Roebuck Ont	I looked at a 67 Barracuda fastback a few years ago, 273, 3 on the tree with buckets. Kevin

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: Twostick] #2628352 03/03/19 06:15 PM 03/03/19 06:15 PM
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bboogieart master B Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,886 Lost and Spaced	I don't think it was all the rare when these cars were new. The floor shifter, especially with console, cost a bit extra. Just seem like it today. I have mechanical Aptitude. I can screw up anything.

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2628875 03/04/19 09:53 PM 03/04/19 09:53 PM
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gtx6970 Too Many Posts Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 21,788 It's a dry heat	My old 1969 GTX convertible was 440 auto. column shift with the buddy seat interior

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: Twostick] #2628923 03/04/19 11:54 PM 03/04/19 11:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,900 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts
Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,900 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC	Originally Posted By Twostick I looked at a 67 Barracuda fastback a few years ago, 273, 3 on the tree with buckets. Completely different thing. The OP was working with the assumption that a console would be standard with buckets for an auto-tranny car. In most cases, this wasn't the case. I am not aware of Mopar having console-mounted 3-speeds but it's possible there's a rare example out there. I know Pontiac and Oldsmobile offered it.

Re: Column shift with Bucket Seats? [Re: DusterKid] #2628942 03/05/19 12:42 AM 03/05/19 12:42 AM
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furious70 top fuel Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,265 IL	Piling on but my 70 sport fury and my brother's 70 charger rt/se are both column bucket cars 70 Sport Fury 68 Charger 69 Coronet 72 RR

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