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Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? #2622695
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Just curious what people think about sending pics of fender tags when selling a Mopar? I'm looking at a car on CL and the guy wouldn't send a pic of the tag because the VIN is on it. I can understand if it was an ultra rare Hemi car, but this is not.

Do you have a problem sending a pic of a fender tag of a car you are selling?

To me it seems if you are saying that a car is factory this or that, you would be willing to share proof of that. So if I go look at it, is he going to prevent me from taking a pic of the tag? shruggy

Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: lilcuda] #2622702
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If a seller will not provide a photo of a specific item when asked, run away.

If a serious buyer shows up to look at a car, they are going to see the fender tag & other numbers in person, so why would any legitimate seller hide them?

There are lots of fake tags & even VINs out there now, so if a seller hides them, look for another car to buy.

Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: lilcuda] #2622787
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I have never understood hiding license plates either.
Seems everyone on the road can see them.


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Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: lilcuda] #2622800
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Tell him to cover the last 5 numbers of the VIN and take the picture.

Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: lilcuda] #2622830
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I agree.

If I don't get a picture of the fender tag/body stamped number on rad support I am not going to buy it blind. Definetly needed on a long distance purchase

Carsten

Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: lilcuda] #2623011
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How close is the car? As stumpy said, he could cover the last few digits...

Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: stumpy] #2623014
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Originally Posted By stumpy
Tell him to cover the last 5 numbers of the VIN and take the picture.


iagree If he won't do this he is either hiding something or he is an overly paranoid weirdo. Both are good reasons to run away from this particular purchase. grin

Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: lilcuda] #2623015
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If it were just for kicks to one of the "pic/tag" collectors no, but if I had a car for sale to the public and a interested buyer asked, of course it should be shown.

Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: lilcuda] #2623065
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I wouldn't be posting the pics in an ad but if I had a serious buyer I'd have no problem sending them a shot of it. If it's a low price car no-one would care and if it's a high end car that's something any serious buyer would want to see. If he doesn't want to do it move on.

Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: lilcuda] #2623098
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So I went to look at the car today. Only about an hour away. Guy seemed like a decent guy. He was hesitant to send the pic because of some strange emails he got regarding the car. Anyway, it's a neat car and it is what he says it is, but it's a bit rougher than I'm comfortable with.

Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: lilcuda] #2623100
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Care to tell us more about this "neat" car?

Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: Diego (not Ted)] #2623102
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Did you ask the seller if he was willing to give a reason for not sending a pic of the fender tag, or is that secret too?

sorry, I missed the your reply about "strange emails" eek

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Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: Diego (not Ted)] #2623123
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Originally Posted By Diego (not Ted)
Care to tell us more about this "neat" car?


66 Satellite. 383 (non original, but rebuilt), factory 4 speed with A/C. Original paint, Citron gold with green interior. Body has lots of areas of rust, left quarter behind the wheel has a previous repair of rust and/or body damage. Floors have rust, probably pretty bad, could only see part of it where the carpet is worn through. Mismatched driver's side door. It's mechanically good, previous owner did a bunch of chassis detailing and rebuilt the suspension. Looks better underneath than up top. Are we allowed to post CL links here or do they have to go to the CL section?

Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: lilcuda] #2623144
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Sounds cool....thank you!

Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: lilcuda] #2623146
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Sounds like you loose out on the car. I am not showing the full VIN in any car I am selling. The car is what I state and when you show up to look at the vehicle, then you can see everything, but no way with all the scams and re-issuing of titles etc would I show a full VIN in an ad. If your interested in the car, come out and see it. If you pass, so be it, next guy in line gets it.


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Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: ChallengerTA] #2623410
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Originally Posted By ChallengerTA
Sounds like you loose out on the car. I am not showing the full VIN in any car I am selling. The car is what I state and when you show up to look at the vehicle, then you can see everything, but no way with all the scams and re-issuing of titles etc would I show a full VIN in an ad. If your interested in the car, come out and see it. If you pass, so be it, next guy in line gets it.


Yea, and you LOSE and potential $$$ due to your paranoia.

If I don't get the full VIN, forget it. I need to be able to Google it if there are potential MESSAGE BOARD discussion on it if it's a fake or crushed shell or something worse (stolen).

Dealers give out VINs no problem.

The chance of faking a whole car, especially these old clunkers, is pretty remote.

Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: ragtopdodge] #2623418
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I don't get the "problem' with this VIN number stuff, if you got a fake car, what difference does it matter if you have a fake number?
Bad guy can just make up a number a few digits off of yours, seems like chances then, on old cars, of another existing car with same number as your made up number are a lot less, then using the number off a real known existing car.


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Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: lilcuda] #2623423
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In some ways I think its really a personal preference to the cars owner no matter what we all think.

I posted im not against it but I also understand its an identification number not normally accessible by others, weather one would rank it with like a DL, a utility bill or any other personal doc im not sure.

Really though in these times people either live on the grid or off, really no middle ground, in the big picture were tracked in so many ways.

Id be more worried about the vengeful d bag with a vin that in short order could tarnish or cause a car issues unjustly.

So it matters to some, just like red light cameras, facial recognition and other things alot of average people find intrusive.

Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: jcc] #2623424
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I heard a story from someone I consider a fairly reliable source, that there was some crook (from FL IIRC) who would take info from cars he'd see at shows, then get a title from a state with lax rules about getting a title on an older car for these car's VINs. Then he would extort owners by claiming ownership from decades ago, and saying he'd drop all claims he had on the car for a nominal fee.
I don't know all the details, and again, this was secondhand. But in this day of age there doesn't seem to be any limit to what people will stoop to trying to pull off to rip people off.
I've blocked out the last digits of the VIN when I've posted pictures of one of my fender tags on forums and ads. However, for a serious potential buyer I will give them the whole VIN.
An offer can be made contingent on being provided the VIN and given time to research it afterwards also.
Not much you can do to safeguard at a show though. But all in all you can't be too cautious.

Re: Thoughts regarding sending pics of fender tags? [Re: Mastershake340] #2623498
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"that there was some crook (from FL IIRC) who would take info from cars he'd see at shows, then get a title from a state with lax rules about getting a title on an older car for these car's VINs. Then he would extort owners by claiming ownership from decades ago,"

That sounds like the typical scare story to me. I don'r see how the dates could be altered to even begin to make the case, besides the fact the perp would have to at some point be in the "open" while committing felony wire fraud, extortion, etc.

If it is a true story, the victim was rather lame, more likely IMO, just a lame story to justify not disclosing a VIN.

One part I do believe, the Florida connection. laugh2


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