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8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. #261971
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Hey there.. can someone help me with what size of axel spacer i should use with a 30 spline strange spool? and how to adjust my axel end play.. thanks

Re: 8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. [Re: Demoman] #261972
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With a spool I would use green axle bearings and be done with spacers and adjusters.


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Re: 8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. [Re: slantzilla] #261973
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With a spool I would use green axle bearings and be done with spacers and adjusters.






Re: 8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. [Re: Demoman] #261974
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Why do you want to use tapered bearings with the spool. If it is because you are using stock axles in the spool -DON'T-. Spools lead to too mush twist for a stock axle leading to breakage and if you go to the track and they find OEM axles you will be sent home. In short: be safe use after market axles with green bearings.


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Re: 8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. [Re: MoparforLife] #261975
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spools are open thru the center between the axles so you don`t have any way to adjust end play since there is no pin for the axle end to push against,so you must use the 'green bearings' .

Re: 8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. [Re: webemopes] #261976
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spools are open thru the center between the axles so you don`t have any way to adjust end play since there is no pin for the axle end to push against,so you must use the 'green bearings' .



Oh it can be done. Measure the width of the spacer order axles that are each 1/2 that measurement longer than the stock axles that use the spacer. But why

Re: 8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. [Re: MoparforLife] #261977
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Ok.. i am using stock axels in the spool .. and i want the stock tappered roller bearings for stronger laterial strength.. Not the ball bearing green bearings.. the is not a street car or a drag car... its another form of racing that some people on here might find offensive.. Needless to say i need the strongest laterial setup possible for my axels, I do not want to risk breaking an expensive aftermarket axel when there are so many c body axels around.... So what could a guy do for a spacer to adjust the end play on stock axels and bearings on a spool..

Another question ..

When you guys twist the splines on your stock axels in a spool does it wreck the spool? and how do you guys get the axel out in a hurry ?

thanks everyone

Re: 8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. [Re: Demoman] #261978
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Ok.. i am using stock axels in the spool .. and i want the stock tappered roller bearings for stronger laterial strength.. Not the ball bearing green bearings.. the is not a street car or a drag car... its another form of racing that some people on here might find offensive.. Needless to say i need the strongest laterial setup possible for my axels, I do not want to risk breaking an expensive aftermarket axel when there are so many c body axels around.... So what could a guy do for a spacer to adjust the end play on stock axels and bearings on a spool..

Another question ..

When you guys twist the splines on your stock axels in a spool does it wreck the spool? and how do you guys get the axel out in a hurry ?

thanks everyone




You wont twist the axle in the spool, it will be right
after it exits the spline on the spool. Word to the
wise.... paint a stripe down the length of the axle,
this will tell you the wind up in the length, about
a 1/4" wide

Re: 8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #261979
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If the hole thru the spool just passes thru I suppose you could find a way to capture a slug of steel in between the axles.


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Re: 8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. [Re: CJK440] #261980
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About any new car and truck uses the same axles (non tapered) as the green bearings, at least on 2000 and up Chevy Camaro, and Chevy full size trucks.
But if you wanted just to save the additional money there probably no down side to it, other than the pain to adjust them. Could just cut a piece of the right size round stock


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Re: 8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. [Re: Bob_Coomer] #261981
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gotcha.. so even if i use a piece of round stock wadded up with tape so it fits snug? How wide should i go? how much end play should i have? how much gap between the spacer and the axel end should i have? Keep in mind im building this for extreme laterial loads and shock...

thanks again

Re: 8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. [Re: Demoman] #261982
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Keep in mind im building this for extreme laterial loads and shock...

thanks again



I dont know, you might be better off using those taper'd bearing then...
As far as the length, its hard to say, are these factory length axles? I would say start kinda long maybe a few inches, adjust the axles all the way out. Make sure the axle will fully seat etc.Trim it down with a cut off wheel and grinder. Its much better to take out length than to add.
The factory buttons is maybe one inch wide or so.
Let me know if you have trouble finding a button, a old axle would work great, be the correct size, and much harder than a piece of mild steel round stock...
I might have a small chunk if you need. PM me later, I might be able to help a guy out.


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Re: 8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. [Re: Demoman] #261983
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8-3/4 spacer is 1.5" wide so keep it simple and weld a 5/8" or 3/4" diameter piece of rod to one of the axles and adjust end play just like you usually would. That way there is no chance of a spacer somehow falling out of the spool during assembly.

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I will say it again using stock axles is not advisable with a spool. There is no give to the spool when turning and something has to give and it isn't always the tires. It is your car and your passengers health you are responsible for.

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I dont know for sure if the splines on both sides of
the spool line up or not but a end of a axle(splined
end) would work.... if its 1.5" like said then cut 1.5"
off of the axle spline and stick it in there, you
might be better off having the spacer shorter and have
all the spline you can get into the spool
EDIT
you never did say what kind of racing you are doing
lets hear it.... is this drifting

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Re: 8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #261986
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EDIT
you never did say what kind of racing you are doing
lets hear it.... is this drifting





That's what I am thinking too.

If that is what it is you might as well just weld up the spiders in a stock carrier. It will work just as well for what you are doing.


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Re: 8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #261987
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He'll eventually be drifting if he uses the stock axels!


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Re: 8 3/4 spool with stock axel bearings.. [Re: slantzilla] #261988
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EDIT
you never did say what kind of racing you are doing
lets hear it.... is this drifting





That's what I am thinking too.


If he is really drifting he will have ALOT less lateral
force than he is thinking... a high percentage of the
time the tire is spinning reducing the lateral load
on the tire/bearing

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Sounds like he is building a demolition derby car.

Take the 1.5" long thrust block out of a stock differential, and slip it inside the spool before you install the axles.

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