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which ali block? #2617450
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It's time to step up my racing program & i'm looking at aluminium blocks. Whats everyones opinion about the World ali block compared to the Indy ali block? I'm down under so its not like i can go look at each & make my decission. I'm already running a ICH block but its a low deck, i'm stepping up to a RB this time.

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Originally Posted By rickseeman
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iagree
I have one on order that is hopefully going to be delivered in March luck
I'm not a big fan of using aluminum blocks for N/A applications but when you have no other choice for new race blocks then you buy the best one you can get up scope twocents


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Originally Posted By rickseeman
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i didn't include KB because I want to buy & receive it in my lifetime. A racing buddy told me it took 14 months from the time he paid, till the time he received his Hemi block. a lot of anguish in 14 months & advised to buy something else.

Re: which ali block? [Re: rebel] #2617573
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Speak with Todd here http://www.mopartsracing.com/ as he is a vendor for Indy and KB and can supply everything you need right down to the gaskets!
Todd also is a builder so he is knowledgeable up


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I'm hearing better things about KB blocks now that the new owners are in complete control of that operation work shruggy
Time will tell, the proof will be in the results from now on wrench


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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Originally Posted By rickseeman
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iagree
I have one on order that is hopefully going to be delivered in March luck
I'm not a big fan of using aluminum blocks for N/A applications but when you have no other choice for new race blocks then you buy the best one you can get up scope twocents
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Hey Cab do you have any real info on these block? I cant seen to find anything in depth on these KB blocks. Lots of chat on em a year or so ago now not so much.

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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
Originally Posted By rickseeman
KB
iagree
I have one on order that is hopefully going to be delivered in March luck
I'm not a big fan of using aluminum blocks for N/A applications but when you have no other choice for new race blocks then you buy the best one you can get up scope twocents

Same here Cab. I ordered mine 9/30/18. Todd talked to me at the end of December to confirm what bore I wanted as the blocks were getting ready for final machine work. If I have it in March that would be awesome. Its given me time to gather up lots of other stuff. Todd has been great to work with. Give him a call.


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Originally Posted By rebel
Originally Posted By rickseeman
KB

i didn't include KB because I want to buy & receive it in my lifetime. A racing buddy told me it took 14 months from the time he paid, till the time he received his Hemi block. a lot of anguish in 14 months & advised to buy something else.


I feel there is a good chance that you will get it in your lifetime. (Altho I'm not an actuary.) Given your choices (KB, Indy, Bill Mitchell) it seems to me there's only one good choice. I've never owned/built/raced a Bill Mitchell but I've never heard anything good about them. (And I have heard horror stories.) If you buy an Indy block you are going to wish you were dead. And then there's KB. I would expect it to be everything you ever dreamed of. Any aluminum block is love at first sight (till you find out what a dog it is) but a KB block is everlasting love. Call Ray Barton or Todd and find out how long delivery on a new one is. They are far enough along now they can probably give you a fairly accurate delivery date. Don't make a poor choice.


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Id guess if you order a KB now your wait time will be far less than mine has been to date. They are making them now and I suspect, or at least hope they have made more than what is already sold. They are a tad more pricey now too at I believe $7495..

As for the World blocks. I currently have my third one in my Stratus. Because it was actually available and my past two worked well for me. my current one is making plenty of power and no signs of any issues. I did have some issues with machining processes they used but that's all fixed, albeit a pain.

As for Indy had two, there is a reason I am waiting for a KB. But I will tell you this will likely be the LAST time I do this. It just is not worth the wait or cost to in the end have something that is inferior to other stuff out there for making power.


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Re: which ali block? [Re: rebel] #2617891
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Let me figure out the photo posting here and I will post side by side by side photos of all three blocks. They might be the only ones that exist of all three in a line for people to compare all three. I have used many Indy and a few World and KBs here in actual builds. Always pros and cons to ALL of them.
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Re: which ali block? [Re: rebel] #2617911
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Teaser 'till some good pictures come.

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Here are some side by side pics as requested. I have a whole file I can email to folks upon request.
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3 block 2 (640x259).jpg3 block comparison (640x285).jpg
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A few more pictures

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I'm liking the water block!

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Isn't the KB block the one on the left looking at it from the screen?
Which one is the World block?


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