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Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A #2609380
01/20/19 04:27 PM
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Hello,


Im helping a friend with a 70 RR.

I want your opinion on this tag.. im saying its a repro..

Sorry for the poor pictures.. i cant get any better for now.


Thanks
Nicklas

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Last edited by 71redcuda; 01/20/19 04:28 PM.
Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: 71redcuda] #2609521
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REPRODUCTION,

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Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: A12] #2609532
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Originally Posted By A12
REPRODUCTION,


Maybe not !! stirthepot

Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: 62maxwgn] #2609539
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Originally Posted By 62maxwgn
Originally Posted By A12
REPRODUCTION,


Maybe not !! stirthepot


Yes Bill maybe not but first gut feeling there's just something that makes me think reproduction. Just my opinion. At this point 50/50, popcorn

Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: 71redcuda] #2609544
01/20/19 09:36 PM
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Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: A12] #2609555
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Originally Posted By A12
Originally Posted By 62maxwgn
Originally Posted By A12
REPRODUCTION,


Maybe not !! stirthepot


Yes Bill maybe not but first gut feeling there's just something that makes me think reproduction. Just my opinion. At this point 50/50, popcorn


I certainly don't know enough about RR's to comment on the orientation or spacing, but the letters for 1970 certainly appear correct. I wish it weren't shot so heavy with paint, maybe thats part of whats making everyone on edge.

Are there any pictures of the tags before the restoration?
After stripping the original paint?

I keep very detailed pics of my car's tag, prior, in process, and finished for this very reason, in case someone ever questions it.

I'll be curious to see what others will say

Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: 71redcuda] #2609572
01/20/19 10:07 PM
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Is it me or does the 1 seem a little off?


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Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: fuelishnsilly] #2609600
01/20/19 10:43 PM
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Here’s the Lynch rd tag from my former 70 rr and notice the top right corner inspection stamp that I’m not seeing on the above tag.
I just noticed only three days apart SPD

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Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: 71redcuda] #2609623
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Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: 71redcuda] #2609680
01/21/19 12:41 AM
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FYI, even some reproductions are showing up with the inspection marks now

Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: A12] #2609702
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Originally Posted By A12
Originally Posted By 62maxwgn
Originally Posted By A12
REPRODUCTION,


Maybe not !! stirthepot


Yes Bill maybe not but first gut feeling there's just something that makes me think reproduction. Just my opinion. At this point 50/50, popcorn


Mike,all reproductions tags I have seen have the top row of letters about half the distance to the rib on top of tag compared to an original,but thats just me.

Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: 71redcuda] #2609708
01/21/19 01:49 AM
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One thing no one should ever do is point out details on fake tags.

The guys that make them lurk here & they are eager to learn so they can try to make more 'believable' fakes to help unscrupulous sellers rip off those that do not know details when the car sells.

Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2609734
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Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA
One thing no one should ever do is point out details on fake tags.

The guys that make them lurk here & they are eager to learn so they can try to make more 'believable' fakes to help unscrupulous sellers rip off those that do not know details when the car sells.


No truer words spoken........the tag makers have been lurking here (probably over the years the most informed resto forum online IMO) for decades. I've seen some of there work and will leave it at that tonguue The bummer now is even if it is an exact copy of the original the fact that it is a reproduction still throws too much shade on the car and will sometimes hurt the image and value of it. There was an example this at this past BJ's with a tag that was declared by the seller as a reproduction of the original......but with some made up info.

Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: 71redcuda] #2609746
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I lean toward being real as not all tags got an inspection stamp

Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: 71redcuda] #2609760
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Spacing between individual letters & numbers seems funky

Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: 71redcuda] #2609775
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Isn't the fender tag lifted (bent) up in one corner to facilitate painting underneath and then folded down? One screw painted body color and one a bare plated screw? Don't see any bend marks.

Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: cbusters] #2609780
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Originally Posted By cbusters
Isn't the fender tag lifted (bent) up in one corner to facilitate painting underneath and then folded down? One screw painted body color and one a bare plated screw? Don't see any bend marks.


Based on the 4 examples posted by 70440+6bbl I'd say you cannot declare it fake by this statement

Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: Alaskan_TA] #2609790
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Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA
One thing no one should ever do is point out details on fake tags.

The guys that make them lurk here & they are eager to learn so they can try to make more 'believable' fakes to help unscrupulous sellers rip off those that do not know details when the car sells.



Then the best thing to do here would be as some of the other forum rules,no fender tag discussion !

Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: AAR#2] #2609797
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baloney!!!! education is the answer. you are not going to stop anything by with holding information. As I said before the best defence is a good offence. Its better to help someone "NOT LOSE THEIR SHIRT " than try prevent a suspected forger at getting better. If you truly believe that "fake tags " are that wide spread , and that this is your "true" calling then should you do everything in your power to educate everyone you can so they may determine for them selves if its real or fake.
It seams as though some of you forgot that this a hobby/ business and you forgotten about the hobby side,"helping each other ". What good is it to have all the info and not share it with anyone. Others have helped you by volunteering their info (fender tags, broadcast sheets , and other info) for you to build your data base. Imagine if they were to take the same approach as you are, where would you be then? help the guy out he's obouvisly trying not to be swindled.

Re: Original or repro fendertag RM21V0A [Re: Little Detroit] #2609800
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