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Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ #2605136
01/11/19 09:49 PM
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Extra crispy in 2008, now reconstituted.

Torched Red Superbird

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Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: Aero426] #2605140
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This was the very short listing of the one day or weekend sale less then a month ago at 145k (or right near that) and no mention of its prior history. Same pics on web ad.

Investment grade car aid the seller.

Another great mopar with the Govier name put in the mix.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=50704.0

Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: Aero426] #2605147
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"Decode sheet available from Govier." What the fudge does this mean?
At face value, it says, "You can have GG decode the tag if you choose." haha

Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: EV2Bird] #2605148
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Maybe Wile E. fially caught the bird, LOL,

Are you saying that is the same car ?? IF so I'd be guessing some vin / body stamping #'s were swapped.

Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: TJP] #2605150
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Originally Posted By TJP
Maybe Wile E. fially caught the bird, LOL,

Are you saying that is the same car ?? IF so I'd be guessing some vin / body stamping #'s were swapped.



Well, it's the same VIN. We report, you decide.

Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: Aero426] #2605154
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Same VIN.

Different car.

Great one to set to 'avoid'.

The VIN swappers hope beyond hope that no one will know the real history before it sells to an uninformed buyer.

Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: Aero426] #2605158
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Whomever wrote that add was VERY careful / slippery with the wording.

Correct V code 440 with 6 pack (which says nothing)

Rebuilt / restored title out of Utah (translation: Salvage title)

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Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: Aero426] #2605192
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So the burn car was bought simply for the title and tags?

Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: Aero426] #2605272
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How does vin tag not melt in all that heat & I wouldnt trust or buy anything that has that half wit pos GG name attached to it.


" if you didn't own it since new then the fender tag is fake "
Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: jimkn] #2605409
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I would think the dash tag would toasted beyond recognition

Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: superbird] #2605544
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Originally Posted By superbird
I would think the dash tag would toasted beyond recognition

watching this guy start to rebuild a hellcat and its weird how things burn to crisp and other don`t

Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: superbird] #2605564
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Originally Posted By superbird
I would think the dash tag would toasted beyond recognition


I believe repop dash tags were available at one time, Not saying they were legal, just available,

And then there is the careful wording
Rebuilt / restored title out of Utah (translation: Salvage title)
That could also mean a state issued VIN ??

Or as mentioned above, maybe the tag survived, doubtful though with that kind of heat but shruggy

Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: Aero426] #2605581
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The real question is wether or not the bird is real, and if so.........WHY the need to re-tag it from another bird's docs? Even a 440-4 Bird stands on its own desireability wise.

Is the car stolen, or was a bird created from a few remaining parts?

Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: Aero426] #2605585
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Id think his one day sale at 145k with no mention of its past is probably a good indicator the he dont give a ____.


Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: jimkn] #2605795
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[quote=jimkn]How does vin tag not melt in all that heat & I wouldnt trust or buy anything that has that half wit pos GG name attached to it. [/quote



Aren't the vin tags made of stainless?]

Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: horsepower.2007] #2606445
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Originally Posted By horsepower.2007
[quote=jimkn]How does vin tag not melt in all that heat & I wouldnt trust or buy anything that has that half wit pos GG name attached to it. [/quote



Aren't the vin tags made of stainless?]


I have the burned T/A (now restored) and the dash tag lost its paint but made it through the fire without issue. It is restored and back on the car. I can post a before picture.

Burnt TA.jpg

1970 Dodge Challenger T/A

Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: jeff968] #2606974
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In response to Jeff 968’s TA.

Wow! Did you do the resto or buy it done? Good you could save a TA. Must be a daunting task to bring a fire care back to life!

Post a picture of it in its restored state too. Love those cars!

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Re: Burned Superbird RM23V0A171586 at Silver Auction AZ [Re: 4mulaS] #2607001
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Originally Posted By 4mulaS
In response to Jeff 968’s TA.

Wow! Did you do the resto or buy it done? Good you could save a TA. Must be a daunting task to bring a fire care back to life!

Post a picture of it in its restored state too. Love those cars!


I did it myself. here's the story:

Burnt TA


1970 Dodge Challenger T/A


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