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Winters Shifter opinions #2595679 12/23/18 02:03 AM 12/23/18 02:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,541 USA H hudsonhornet7x OP pro stock
hudsonhornet7x OP pro stock H Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,541 USA	My whole life I have not owned a performance car with an automatic. The one I am building now will have a Turbo 400 ( I know I know) and I need to purchase a shifter. I have been looking at ratchet shifters and then stumbled upon the winters shifter. It looks good and is priced right, but what do you folks think on the situation? Last edited by hudsonhornet7x; 12/23/18 02:05 AM.

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2595681 12/23/18 02:18 AM 12/23/18 02:18 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,154 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,154 PA.	Wow are they still around. I haven’t heard that name in 20 years or more. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2595684 12/23/18 02:22 AM 12/23/18 02:22 AM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,541 USA H hudsonhornet7x OP pro stock
hudsonhornet7x OP pro stock H Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 1,541 USA	https://www.wideopendesign.com/winters-shifter

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2595708 12/23/18 05:12 AM 12/23/18 05:12 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,115 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,115 Bend,OR USA	That shifter is a very good part no matter which name is on the cover, Fairbanks, Winters, Turbo Action or Art Carr I've used both a Fairbanks and Winters on 727, both where excellent I have one left in my shop for my new car when it gets done All the ones I have used have been rear exits with reverse manual shift valve bodies Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2595723 12/23/18 10:43 AM 12/23/18 10:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,021 Tulsa OK Bad340fish master
Bad340fish master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,021 Tulsa OK	I have heard people say the Winters is the same as the turbo action. I have had some friends with Winters shifters and I did not like them, they were nice and solid but didn't feel as smooth as my TA shifter. 68 Barracuda Formula S 340

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2595726 12/23/18 11:13 AM 12/23/18 11:13 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	I have a standard forward pattern JVX/Winters shifter in my car. It was pretty easy to shift from first to third if I didn't pay attention. I now use it with a reverse pattern valve body and have never went from first to third because I have to push the shifter over and then back. My cable exits the front of the shifter and goes in from the back of the transmission. Good, solid, smooth shifters IMO.

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2595807 12/23/18 03:35 PM 12/23/18 03:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo R rt66jim master
rt66jim master R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo	The best shifter I ever owned and used was an Winters. I have had B&M, Hurst and Turbo Action as well. The Winters was the best.

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2595832 12/23/18 04:28 PM 12/23/18 04:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,521 Fulton County, PA C CMcAllister Mr. Helpful
CMcAllister Mr. Helpful C Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,521 Fulton County, PA	Don't like a ratchet shifter at all. And I wouldn't use a Winters/Turbo Action in my car for the same reason I wouldn't use a rotary phone in my house. If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: CMcAllister] #2595837 12/23/18 04:39 PM 12/23/18 04:39 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Originally Posted By CMcAllister Don't like a ratchet shifter at all. And I wouldn't use a Winters/Turbo Action in my car for the same reason I wouldn't use a rotary phone in my house. I love my B&M Pro Ratchet.. I wont use any other type now.. and whats wrong with a rotary phone.. too slow for ya

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: CMcAllister] #2595847 12/23/18 05:03 PM 12/23/18 05:03 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 287 PA Harry's Taxi 2 enthusiast
Harry's Taxi 2 enthusiast Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 287 PA	Originally Posted By CMcAllister Don't like a ratchet shifter at all. And I wouldn't use a Winters/Turbo Action in my car for the same reason I wouldn't use a rotary phone in my house. So what would you use? '86 Maple Grove KOS Mopar low qualifier......true street legal with no power adders. NOS-used when losing since 1940.

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2595858 12/23/18 05:28 PM 12/23/18 05:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,521 Fulton County, PA C CMcAllister Mr. Helpful
CMcAllister Mr. Helpful C Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,521 Fulton County, PA	I've used a Hurst Quarter Stick on Chrysler 3 speeds that worked well after I put a good cable on it. Now for a 3 speed, I would just use a B&M Pro Stick for that style/price point shifter because I think the hardware is better. Or, if I wanted to spend the money and step up to a better unit, use a clean neutral VB, etc., I would use the PPP. For a Glide, one of the compact, billet units designed specifically for the 2 speed. If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2595871 12/23/18 06:00 PM 12/23/18 06:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,163 Park Forest, IL slantzilla Too Many Posts
slantzilla Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,163 Park Forest, IL	I have the T/A in my Valiant. It is reverse pattern and it is really easy to go from 1st the 3rd. I too prefer a Quarter Stick. "Everybody funny, now you funny too."

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: slantzilla] #2595952 12/23/18 08:55 PM 12/23/18 08:55 PM
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 4,664 Wichita G GY3 master
GY3 master G Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 4,664 Wichita	Another Quarter Stick fan. '63 Dodge 330 11.19 @ 121 mph Pump gas, n/a, through the mufflers on street tires with 3.54's. 3,600 lbs. 10.01 @ 133mph with a 250 shot of nitrous an a splash of race gas. 1.36 60 ft. 3,700 lbs.

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: slantzilla] #2595989 12/23/18 10:12 PM 12/23/18 10:12 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,115 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,115 Bend,OR USA	Originally Posted By slantzilla I have the T/A in my Valiant. It is reverse pattern and it is really easy to go from 1st the 3rd. I too prefer a Quarter Stick. I've had to learn to not leave my relax arm and hand on the shifter on the starting line on more than one different brand of shifters including the ratchet shifters I also had to learn on manual 4 speed shifter when speed shifting to pull the shifter towards the seat on the 1st to 2nd gear shift and push it towards the passenger side of the car on the 2nd to 3rd gear shift and then straight back on the 3rd to 4th gear changes Shifters are like women, not all racers like the same ones Last edited by Cab_Burge; 12/23/18 10:12 PM. Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2596021 12/23/18 11:12 PM 12/23/18 11:12 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 653 Fredericksburg Va P plycuda mopar
plycuda mopar P Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 653 Fredericksburg Va	I have had winters shifters for 30 years and never shifter from 1 to 3rd. they have a new cover for it to put 8 switches in it too

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: Cab_Burge] #2596065 12/24/18 12:32 AM 12/24/18 12:32 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,521 Fulton County, PA C CMcAllister Mr. Helpful
CMcAllister Mr. Helpful C Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 11,521 Fulton County, PA	Originally Posted By Cab_Burge Shifters are like women, not all racers like the same ones Yeah, but when they're big, ugly, hard to work with and unpredictable, smart guys will send them on to the next guy. If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: CMcAllister] #2596134 12/24/18 02:45 AM 12/24/18 02:45 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,115 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,115 Bend,OR USA	Originally Posted By CMcAllister Originally Posted By Cab_Burge Shifters are like women, not all racers like the same ones Yeah, but when they're big, ugly, hard to work with and unpredictable, smart guys will send them on to the next guy. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, isn't it I've never heard of one of those shifters not doing the exact same thing over and over again, maybe the driver is the cause of the problems ? Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: Cab_Burge] #2596574 12/25/18 12:00 AM 12/25/18 12:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo R rt66jim master
rt66jim master R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo	Originally Posted By Cab_Burge Originally Posted By slantzilla I have the T/A in my Valiant. It is reverse pattern and it is really easy to go from 1st the 3rd. I too prefer a Quarter Stick. I've had to learn to not leave my relax arm and hand on the shifter on the starting line on more than one different brand of shifters including the ratchet shifters I also had to learn on manual 4 speed shifter when speed shifting to pull the shifter towards the seat on the 1st to 2nd gear shift and push it towards the passenger side of the car on the 2nd to 3rd gear shift and then straight back on the 3rd to 4th gear changes Shifters are like women, not all racers like the same ones I changed the gate plate on my TA shifter to that of a Winters to sole the first to third problem. http://8903e7f0897f2982f439-51d6683c30d3...d640x480jpg.jpg Last edited by rt66jim; 12/25/18 12:02 AM.

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: CMcAllister] #2596650 12/25/18 04:31 AM 12/25/18 04:31 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,115 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,115 Bend,OR USA	I've never used or adjusted a T/A shifter, I have use both the Winters and Fairbanks, the main thing I like about both of them is you can adjust the linkage so it is dead on within one revolution of a turn on the cable and it will be exactly dead nuts in every gear when you shift, unlike others I have used and gave up on Last edited by Cab_Burge; 12/25/18 04:32 AM. Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Winters Shifter opinions [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #2596670 12/25/18 09:27 AM 12/25/18 09:27 AM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 287 PA Harry's Taxi 2 enthusiast
Harry's Taxi 2 enthusiast Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 287 PA	Another 30+ year fan of the Winters type shifter. Using one right now with a clean neutral valve body. I do like the look and size of the PPP shifters.....a nicely machined version of a slap-stick oem shifter. It's pretty hard to beat the dummy-proof simplicity of the Winters style. '86 Maple Grove KOS Mopar low qualifier......true street legal with no power adders. NOS-used when losing since 1940.

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