Re: Gen III Swap or 360?
[Re: Nroma227]
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12/16/18 02:57 PM
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Spend the extra money now and do the gen 3 hemi swap. I never did a newer 318/360 swap, so no clue what that costs, but did multiple hemi swaps. The biggest expense other than the engine is the ecu/engine management. If you watch ebay and amazon, you can score great deals on swap parts. I paid like 120 shipped for a efi tank for my cuda. I have bought swap headers for a little over 200 on ebay.
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Re: Gen III Swap or 360?
[Re: Nroma227]
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12/17/18 12:37 PM
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Kiddart
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Nroma227,
I did the 360 motor a while back, to get anything fast and in the 10's you are spending a bunch of money on heads, stroker kits, exhaust blah, blah, blah.
I have just recently sold off a portion of my 360 to fund a Gen 3 swap. the biggest money spent has been on MSD 6 hemi, and the headers, Intake. I already have the EFI system from my 360. Its should run in the low 11's high 10s when done, and that is relatively stock. I have purchased a set of Eagle heads and that will wake this motor up real good.
Spend the time and money now and have the ability to go to any dealer and get parts for your engine without spending tons of cash.
Thank you Kiddart
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Re: Gen III Swap or 360?
[Re: GoodysGotaCuda]
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12/21/18 06:13 PM
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I would build a Gen 3 for it. How much do you want for your junk 360 parts. I know a guy.
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Re: Gen III Swap or 360?
[Re: Nroma227]
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12/21/18 06:18 PM
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Kiddart
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Go Gen 3
Last edited by 392Hemi; 12/31/18 01:55 PM.
Thank you Kiddart
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Re: Gen III Swap or 360?
[Re: Kiddart]
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12/29/18 06:15 AM
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My 720hp big block thru 3" exhaust and 3.55 gears ran 9.70
My much milder 426 g3 hemi thru 3" exhaust 3.73s and a low gear 904 runs 9.85 and it will probably go in the 70s now because there was an issue I discovered
Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram
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Re: Gen III Swap or 360?
[Re: Nroma227]
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12/31/18 12:35 PM
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ric3xrt
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Long run go G3 , if you have to have this running by March..go small block.
Last edited by ric3xrt; 12/31/18 12:35 PM.
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Re: Gen III Swap or 360?
[Re: Nroma227]
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01/02/19 07:10 PM
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Understand in the long haul it would be nice to do a Gen 3 but just going thru the web site and prices WOW. This is a father/son project. For around $3500-4000 i could have a well built 340-360 . Were looking at that number in a GEN 3 for a kit and that doesnt include a motor. What are we looking at for price to find a used 6.1 or 6.4 Hemi ?? My son Started this question on this forum. Would really like a good break down on money between doing the drive train. Car is in the paint shop now and I'm seaming sealing the car. Didnt want to get to far ahead if we needed to make modification for a Gen 3 while on rotisserie. Discussion ? If someone has a spread sheet please email at par12730@sbcglobal.net Trying to educate ourselves on this deal . Thanks DAD. lol
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Re: Gen III Swap or 360?
[Re: Nroma227]
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01/02/19 07:54 PM
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I track prices on ebay off and on for 09 and up eagle headed 5.7's with and without the NAG1 trans, 6.1's, etc. If you find the right deal I think you can have a 09+ 5.7 and NAG1, with computers and wiring for $3-4k based on the asking prices on ebay. From there you have to do some cutting and then some work for wheel speed sensors with a tone ring on the back of the trans. 390hp/407tq and 5spd auto - it'll take a really healthy 360/727 to overcome that. 6.1/NAG1 with computers and wiring for $5k. I'm a little interested in the 6.1 because I want to turbo charge. If I wasn't I wouldn't look at the extra cost at all, just get an eagle 5.7
Watch the shipping charges and whether there are core charges, sellers are all over the place on those.
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Re: Gen III Swap or 360?
[Re: mgoblue9798]
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01/02/19 08:22 PM
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Is there any new hemi engine management system that does not cost $2500 to run these engines in an older vehicle? MS3 gold is 1295, fully tunable via laptop and comes with the engine wiring harness.
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