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Mystery Bolt #2570313
10/27/18 07:15 PM
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A while back, the engine builder fastened the valley tray with these unusual bolt heads (capscrews). They have a sunburst head -- like a kind of inverse torx head. I'm having trouble finding the right tool that removes them. Is there a name for these? Thanks in advance.

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Re: Mystery Bolt [Re: Scott440] #2570316
10/27/18 07:22 PM
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Looks like a simple 12 point to me....

Re: Mystery Bolt [Re: Scott440] #2570321
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Yeah, the correct term is "12-point Flange Bolt" yours appears to be Grade 8.


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Re: Mystery Bolt [Re: Scott440] #2570328
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A 12 point wrench or socket will remove them. Looks like you'll need a 5/16 wrench.

Re: Mystery Bolt [Re: Scott440] #2570334
10/27/18 08:09 PM
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Many header bolts are like that. The idea is lighter weight and more clearance.

Re: Mystery Bolt [Re: Scott440] #2570357
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They are 1/4-20 12 point bolts

Re: Mystery Bolt [Re: Scott440] #2570360
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!2 point socket. Useful for tight clearances, trans pans, intakes, headers, even head bolts.


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Re: Mystery Bolt [Re: Sammy] #2570361
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They may be 12 point 11/32 head size scope
The 12 point nuts on 1/4 inch studs I use for valve covers use that size shruggy


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Re: Mystery Bolt [Re: Scott440] #2570366
10/27/18 09:13 PM
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Every bolt and nut on my brad hemis are 12 point. Actually there are no bolts on my hemis, all studs except for the 12 point rod bolts. Every bolt and nut are 12 points on my dragster chassis, some are titanium. Many racing/aircraft fasteners are cut down for clearance and mostly light weight.

Many are aircraft grade like some in this picture and are a one time use. I got a buddy who works at GE aircraft engines and gave me piles of trick fasteners.


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Re: Mystery Bolt [Re: Cab_Burge] #2570372
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Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
They may be 12 point 11/32 head size scope
The 12 point nuts on 1/4 inch studs I use for valve covers use that size shruggy



All Indy valley trays and intake tops use only 1/4-20 12 point bolts

Re: Mystery Bolt [Re: Sammy] #2570383
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Originally Posted By Sammy
Originally Posted By Cab_Burge
They may be 12 point 11/32 head size scope
The 12 point nuts on 1/4 inch studs I use for valve covers use that size shruggy



All Indy valley trays and intake tops use only 1/4-20 12 point bolts



Not mine. lol. I make my stuff easy to work on so for applications like that hex head bolts work great.


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Re: Mystery Bolt [Re: Scott440] #2570387
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I have that socket..I never used it before so I assumed this was something exotic. I can see how these would be ideal for headers. Thanks.







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