You never know. I worked in Automotive production and we built some vehicles two years in advance. Some were special builds with special serial numbers. Most of those builds were to see were or how every thing would fit into the process of the build with the line workers. Others parts of the plant were to test to see if the Body Shop or Paint Shop processes had to be modified for the new body styles and paints. Sometimes it was to see if the longer vehicle would fit turning corners on the line and not run into some rack or person working on the line. Look deeper into the history of the car. Sometimes it is not all about the money but about enjoying the Hobby. If you can not live with what you have just sell it to someone else and let them enjoy the car. If you think the history is tainted maybe put a modified motor in the car and go racing and have fun.

There are two people that have a lot of information on 1968 and 1969 B Bodies. I will say it Galen Govier he has or had a 1968 Hemi Dodge B Body one of two built, also Furyman on this site has a lot of information on these cars since he owns a lot of 1968 Coronet RT Convertibles.

Yes, SO matches the radiator support SO

I'm just really trying to get to the bottom of it. I'll admit not knowing will take some of the enjoyment out of it for me, but it's not like the car is some numbers matching cream puff or anything, so perhaps I'll get over it in a while.

What's the date code on the k frame ?

It's interesting that the left rivet on the vin tag post paint looks like it was spun after paint and removed paint off the tag ?

Jeff can you post that picture of the prepainted tag ?

Tom Quad ... too funny ...

Only pic I have of the pre-painted tag is the one from the prior owner's forum link. Not sure about K frame number... I'll look when I can get a break from these 12 hour days, lol.

Is there a build/broadcast sheet for the car? Only thing to tie SO number to VIN is the paperwork. I was keeping track of SOs versus VINs versus build dates a while ago. I don't know where the excel sheet is at this moment. But lower SPDS usually have a 0 in the beginning of the SO number. But IIRC, the SO numbers were based off assigned numbers that dealers had. So it is possible to have a later SO number on earlier SPD car and vice versa. But to have an August build date on a car that wasn't even released for production indicates more of a fender tag stamp error. Just my

Anyone know what the keyboard was like at the factory?

If the numbers were in a keypad fashion, it would be easy to type an 8 instead of a 5.

Since the Super Bee was a caught-with-their-pants-down response to the Road Runner, and since it was not yet apparent the Road Runner would be a success (I believe production was estimated to be under 10k?) it simply makes no sense why there would be an August build.

People are saying that there were still some 68 cars built in early August of 68. The other theory is that it was 8/11/67. I'm not sure which is true, but the fender tag at this point is less of a issue to me than the VIN. I can believe that the projected build date was within a few weeks of when the line was supposed to change over if in fact the car was built in August of 68. That would make the sequence of the VIN unexplainable however. In contrast if the car really was built 8/11/67 the sequence of "740" makes more sense despite the fact that conventional wisdom suggests there weren't Super Bees at that time.

I need to get a full history of the VIN registration with the DMV. If the VIN I have was registered to an owner in 68-69 I'd say there's a pretty good chance the VIN is original to the car.

Hello everyone. I started this thread on another blog. Here is the deal...and I know this for fact because I own the first Superbee out of the LA Plant. I documented mine with Galen which he states that mine is the first one to exist out of the LA plant. Your car is the last 1968 superbee out of the LA plant. However, the sequence number is the beginning of 1969 year. Look at the 1969 sequence numbers and where it begins...in LA that is. Yours is 100740 and the first one listed in 1969 out of the LA is 101028. There are a ton of date codes that will tell you if its an early build or late build. Mine was built 1/23 out of LA. The dates stamped on the crossmember, the trunk and k member all confirm this. There is a date on the wiper motor that is the 347th day of 1967. My mufflers are also dated correctly. Here is the interesting part of your car...it was going down the line along with the 1969 models. So...that hood might have been correct for the car. In other words, the customer may have ordered the 1968 car and optioned for that hood...at the dealer or something. I can't remember if there is a date code on the hood somewhere. [/spoiler]I have been painstakingly restoring mine to 100% original and documenting everything. For example, my K-member has a stamp 009 of 1968. So, the 9th day of 1968. Unfortunately, the engine and tranny were lost over 30 years ago. I found a period correct block and began the build from there. Galen Govier is your first stop. If anyone has anymore information about my car. Thanks.[s][/s]

Update, after further discussion on another blog, it feels like this car was born a coronet and then someone fraudulently changed the VIN to a superbee. If the owner is around, what else did you find out?

What if the factory screwed up and mis-stamped the 2nd digit of the VIN? Would they let it off the line and just change the documentation?

I realize the odds are greater that something was altered on the car sometime in the last 50 years, but other makes are known to have mis-stamps like VINs being 1 digit off between motor and car or digits reversed for example.

Do the component date codes support a spring '68 build?

On further investigation......The trim/drip-rail/Pillar trim codes appear to be off. Mine are 5 7 8 starting in position 2 of line 3. Do the other '68 bee owners on here have similar chrome trim codes? I thought they were specific to the Bee.

Well, I'm the owner of the car in question here, and I've gotten pretty much nowhere in regards to figuring this issue out. The CA DMV doesn't have any record of a new title ever being issued to the car, but they also are very limited in regards to the lifetime history of the car. Everything about the car suggests it's a real SuperBee aside from the VIN anomaly. It has the larger brakes, and hd springs...the original color matches the trim tag, which matches the body numbers. I don't actually even care if it is a genuine SuperBee at this point. Either way, the engine and trans are non numbers matching, so it's not some great collectors item anyway. I'd be content knowing it was a fake if that's the case just to have it figured out. I'm growing weary of all the speculation, and truthfully I just want to be done with it. Nothing about this has been a fun experience for me with having to replace the engine right away, then learning of this VIN issue after the fact. It's a clean titled CA car for all intents and purposes with a brand new engine I dropped nearly 8k on with all documentation and a huge stack of receipts for all of the recent restoration items. The car drives great and looks beautiful and all I want to do is get rid of it. If anyone here could care less about the VIN issue, I'll make them a great deal.

what other blog might I find that some "expert" can prove the car was fraudulently altered to be a Superbee? And why bother going to that level of altering a non numbers matching car when a clone car in the same condition would only bring a few thousand less?

OP see i told you...John RR the biggest expert of all has spoken.

This would have been the last place on earth i posted questions about this car. That does not mean i would have not reached out to a few on here in PM's that actually have knowledge

PM me if you want offline help with this.

Thank Dilbert, I never intended to post anything about the car on the internet really. What happened was some German guy who was interested in buying it put the pics I sent him up all over the place and I was hit with the first I'd heard of there being any discrepancy whatsoever. I went online just to defend myself as he was making it appear I was trying to sell him a fake car. The OP in this thread pulled the pics from a FB post I entered replying to him. I don't mind people knowing about the car necessarily as I wouldn't have tried to sell it without being honest about whatever I knew. However, it is hard to see something you've invested so much money and time into so easily dismissed as "fake" by others who have nothing to lose in the situation.