Re: 69 charger disk brake questions
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Well, those are what's known as "pin type" calipers so they can be 70-74 Barracuda, or Challenger (E body) calipers, or 70-72 B body calipers. As for as the Spindles go there are 2 types that were used. 70-72 spindles have a smaller diameter, inner wheel bearing to be used accordingly with that rotor. 73-74 spindles used a larger diameter inner wheel bearing. You would need to take off a caliper, and rotor and measure the diameter to tell what's currently on the vehicle.
Also, looking at the disc brake dust shield in your picture, it looks to be a 70-72 shield, so I'm betting on either of those years, that's whats currently on your car.
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Re: 69 charger disk brake questions
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Ya, you can install A body 73-76 "Slider Type" calipers onto those spindles Ok if you want too. Your right, you would need Slider type caliper mounts, and accordingly slider type calipers. If your going to keep calipers mounted toward the rear, your gonna need hoses to work with that swap. People use hoses from the Aspen, and Volare cars, without any problems. FYI, i have slider type mounts. Wanna buy a pair?
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Re: 69 charger disk brake questions
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So who makes a repopped single piece rotor for 66-69 Bendix? I have only see the rotor that requires and original hub to mate too it. https://www.carid.com/right-stuff-detail...&url=722009Look here. I knew i had it filed somewhere in one of the computers that i use, but i didn't know which one, until i found it.
I think you need to look at that a little closer. Google will help. Fitment 68-74 charger; 70 to 74 E body. Clearly wrong. That is really a 70-72B and 70-74E rotor. That is the one that does not fit right when folks try to use it on a Bendix set up.
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Re: 69 charger disk brake questions
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I might just turn these rotors here at work. Looking at that rotor I bet your inner disc is well below minimum which was only .94 with a disc that started at 1. New one piece disc for the small bearing spindle are just $55 Rock Auto. New pin type caliper for the 70-72 B/E also pretty cheap at local auto store or RA. I had to go through all this with a 70RR. You just need to verify which spindle you have, but if the 10.98" rotor it should be the small bearing.
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Re: 69 charger disk brake questions
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So who makes a repopped single piece rotor for 66-69 Bendix? I have only see the rotor that requires and original hub to mate too it. https://www.carid.com/right-stuff-detail...&url=722009Look here. I knew i had it filed somewhere in one of the computers that i use, but i didn't know which one, until i found it.
I think you need to look at that a little closer. Google will help. Fitment 68-74 charger; 70 to 74 E body. Clearly wrong. That is really a 70-72B and 70-74E rotor. That is the one that does not fit right when folks try to use it on a Bendix set up. Your most likely right. Never personally had to research it any further, when that page first showed up, as I'm not in the market to purchase one. Then it's advertised incorrectly.
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Re: 69 charger disk brake questions
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So who makes a repopped single piece rotor for 66-69 Bendix? I have only see the rotor that requires and original hub to mate too it. https://www.carid.com/right-stuff-detail...&url=722009Look here. I knew i had it filed somewhere in one of the computers that i use, but i didn't know which one, until i found it.
I think you need to look at that a little closer. Google will help. Fitment 68-74 charger; 70 to 74 E body. Clearly wrong. That is really a 70-72B and 70-74E rotor. That is the one that does not fit right when folks try to use it on a Bendix set up. https://www.yearone.com/Product/chrysler-b-body/bn144How about this one, sold by Year One? Appears to be correct for fitment on the 1966-69 B body line of cars for the BENDIX disc brake system. I knew someone has (had) these rotors, but i was confused where i saw the ads, and who is selling what, and how i bookmarked them in my computer(s) That's my error.
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Re: 69 charger disk brake questions
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"Reproduction rotor and hub. Improved one piece design. No pulsation like original two piece rotors that expanded at different rates. Wheel studs with right hand threads already installed. Works with original Bendix or Kelsey Hayes caliper's."
I had to do research for my 69 disc b body. I separated quite a few 2 piece Bendix and KH rotors to take measurements.
I still think that one is a problem too, though I have not personally seen one. Look at the note above. Says it works with both Bendix and KH calipers. Clearly not meant to. Bendix was the 11.19 and KH 10.98. Plus height/hub differences and spindle mount surface offset. I think this may be a bastardized rotor in the middle. From what I read, folks had to turn down the inner surface to get it to work with a true 67-69 Bendix set up.
It really would be more helpful if Year one and others provided the full spec like RA does with their 70-72 Rotor.
The dura brake rotor only is made to the Bendix spec, you just have to mount the hub correctly. I suspect that Year One ad has gotta be a miss statement in the description stating Kelsey Hayes calipers. There now is a one piece rotor that's available for the 65-72 Kelsey Hayes, 4 piston disc brake system, used on the A body line of cars. Mancini is selling them. Check out the ad, in the link. http://www.manciniracing.com/mbmstsmbofrp.html
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