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Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? #2562706
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Anybody get the latest Mopar Action?
I heard Lee was in it.

Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: RV2] #2562716
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I'm also in the dark as I have not seen it either. By the way, the last recent survey article was in Mopar muscle magazine, unless you are stoking up that infamous "The Art of street racing" article back in the 90's also by Cliffy.

This Mopar action should bring the humor and the seriousness of this car under one umbrella.

Thank you by the way.
I'm having a hard time putting in some seat time. NY shuffle and hustle keeps my finishing and tires flat footed.

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Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2562859
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got my copy in the mail yesterday. GREAT article ! they call him a "blind graffiti artist". biggrin
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Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #2562942
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Originally Posted By fullmetaljacket
I'm also in the dark as I have not seen it either. By the way, the last recent survey article was in Mopar muscle magazine, unless you are stoking up that infamous "The Art of street racing" article back in the 90's also by Cliffy.

This Mopar action should bring the humor and the seriousness of this car under one umbrella.

Thank you by the way.
I'm having a hard time putting in some seat time. NY shuffle and hustle keeps my finishing and tires flat footed.


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Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: RV2] #2563023
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Looking forward to my copy. Got it yesterday. Nice article. I wish I was this tallented.
Doug

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Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: RV2] #2563127
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How much is an autographed copy? smile

Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: RV2] #2563130
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I got my issue in the mail yesterday. Really good article. Much more in depth than the MM article.

Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: topside] #2563170
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How much for an autographed copy?
As much as it will cost to ship it to me and back.

Thanks a whole lot guys.

It's worth all the hard work to retrieve info and pictures from the past along side a busy schedule at hand.
Funny, I've still haven't seen it.
Waiting for the stands to carry them.
I'm patient.
Enjoy the read, it's getting nippy.

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Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: RV2] #2563656
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I'm surprised you haven't taken weight out of the engine. A fully machined crankshaft would save you 10 lbs plus there are rods and pistons that are much lighter than what you're running. Beehive or conical springs are lighter than duals, porting the intake saves some weight, etc. You could probably take 30 or 40 lbs off that engine without working too hard.

Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: AndyF] #2563674
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I had Best machine do me this motor with what I already had as a cheap budgeted build against their better judgement to go with a lighter rotational set up. They even suggested a semi mild street roller against my wanting a old school flat tappet.
At the time I was fixated with trying to keep a small tire combination planted and scooting on un-prepped surfaces.
Your right Andy, and when the times comes to refresh, I'll look into that.

At one time I was considering an aluminum block but too many stories good and bad blocked that idea, at least till all the dust settles.
Believe it not, I still have a few pounds here and there sans the engine as you mentioned that will see the waste bin and then it will be fun from there on.

Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: RV2] #2563810
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Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: hemi-itis] #2563832
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Originally Posted By hemi-itis
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i'm jealous !
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Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: AndyF] #2563848
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Touch base with Tim at FHO on the status of the new KB aluminum wedge blocks. I think they'll have the new castings available next year. They'll look stock to most people but experts will be able to see the cross bolts and stuff like that. A new shortblock based on a KB aluminum block could save you 150 to 175 lbs depending on what you use internally. Even with a budget build you could save significant weight. 440Source has lightweight stroker cranks now and Molnar 7.100 long rods are much lighter than an Eagle or SCAT rod. Here is a picture of the fully machined lightweight SCAT crank that I'm running. SCAT has superlite cranks in their catalog. I think you can even buy them from Summit these days.

Is your carb all aluminum? The newer carbs are all aluminum and save 3 or 4 lbs. I can't tell from the pictures. The fuel pressure gauge with isolator is heavier than an electric version. Of course if you really want to take weight out you can switch to a throttle body setup. Once you go with EFI you can ditch the ignition box and most of the gauges. Your alternator looks fairly heavy. Is that a GM alternator? You can get a 6 lb Denso unit that puts out 55 amps.

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Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: RV2] #2563903
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Here is a picture of the small 55 amp Denso mounted on a big block. You could do your twist on this idea by cutting the brackets from Ti and using aluminum or Ti for the bolts. I used to get brackets cut from Ti on a water jet. The water jet doesn't care, it cuts Ti just like butter.

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Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: AndyF] #2563958
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Yes, It's a GM 140 amper and IIRC, it weighed like 11 Lbs or so where as the original 35 amp Chrysler unit was around 14 Lbs.
I installed that one wire alternator after what it seemed was a low rating on the out put of the original. I have an electric fan with relays, electric Aeromotive in tank fuel pump, lights, and was spooked that the 55 Denso units would not pull their lightweight stuff. Perhaps I am paranoid.
I have not seen or read the article yet, but I've got Ti bolts holding most things together on the front of the engine including the alternator, water pump, oil pump, timing chain cover, fuel pump cover, valve covers, intake manifold, carb, (Yes it's aluminum) headers, brake reservoir, you name it. Engine plate is also holding on with Ti bolts on all points. All T6AL4V fasteners.

Yes, the Molnar crank and rods are the new thing. (My friends Hemi is now running them)
In all the haste to get the motor done years back, I forgot to shave off the factory unused motor mount ears on the block. That thick iron stuff there probably adds up to 2 lbs or more.

Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: RV2] #2563967
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I think you would be fine with 55 amps. If not just reinstall the GM unit and sell the Denso. Have you considered a lightweight battery? The FX guys would've killed to have a 6 lb alternator that put out 55 amps and a lithium battery. If you could go back in time and show those guys this stuff they would burn you for witchcraft.

Do you use CAD for any of these parts? If you have access to a simple CAD system then you can easily get blanks cut from aluminum or Ti on a water jet or on a laser. I paid $99 for a set of MasterCAM Design years ago and it is all I need to design my parts.

Have you looked at the super lightweight gauges that are available now? The new Holley EFI gauges only weigh 2 oz each. Old school Autometer gauges are 6x times heavier than that.

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Shannon at Redline Gauge works can help you save some weight by reworking the instrument cluster. A GPS powered speedometer eliminates the speedo cable. You can convert the ammeter to a volt meter and eliminate a gauge. Same thing with the idiot light for oil pressure. Switch that over to a gauge in the cluster and eliminate the separate oil pressure gauge. It will all look stock but work better and save you weight.

Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: hemi-itis] #2563977
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Originally Posted By hemi-itis
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Re: Full metal jacket in Mopar Action again? [Re: AndyF] #2564003
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Thank you fellas.

Andy, Yes I have a 21 Lb lithium battery out back with all aluminum power cable connecting it to the firewall junction post. From there on to the starter it's all copper strand.
Years ago when Autometer came out with their lightweight gauges (I think they ae called Autolites) I was first in line for them. They were significantly lighter than the older regular Autometer gauges. I also have a 5" Monster RPM Autolite gauge poking out on a 30 degree angle from the dash where I can see it with the corners of my eyes. It looks like the factory installed it there.

As fas as my instrument cluster, believe it or not, I went into that as well. I stripped it down of all parts, hole sawed the sides to remove the most of that HEAVY cast metal and applied a good 3M tape over the holes. I then painted the whole inside a flat white so that the light could reflect better and reinstalled all my circuits and light sockets etc. IIRC I took off some where between a pound or so.

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