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Re: A body chassis [Re: Jim_Lusk] #2548191
09/10/18 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted By Jim_Lusk
Originally Posted By AndyF
Originally Posted By Jim_Lusk
When you consider how well the Red Brick and the Green Brick perform, I consider this completely unnecessary...


Red Brick performed great on the track but wasn't much fun to drive around town. That is the problem with the classic Mopar suspension. You can make them work at the track but you give up a lot. To have a car do both you have to start with a clean sheet of paper. Not sure this chassis does that, but it might. I don't have any plans to test it out though. Looks like a huge project for even a professional shop to tackle. Lots of stuff has to be cut away to fit on there and then everything needs to be lined up and welded back together. I'd never finish a project like that.


Larry seems to enjoy driving it...or at least did last time I talked to him. Lee didn't like it much on the street. I don't know how stiff it is, but I know my son's Barracuda was stiff (1.14" torsion bars with KYB shocks) and I did not find it objectionable even on California back roads...


Honestly, the ride wasn't that bad. The rattles, squeaks and clunks were annoying. But the worst part was the heat and resonance from having no carpet and headliner. On a cool day with earplugs, it was a blast!

Re: A body chassis [Re: lilcuda] #2548234
09/10/18 02:17 AM
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Yep, no carpet, no headliner, all sound deadening removed, lots of bracing removed, etc. Earplugs were mandatory and with the way Tim drove it, so were motion sickness pills!

Best time to drive a car like that is on a cool night after a hot day. Pop some ear plugs in, pull on a helmet, open up the windows and let it fly.

My daughter is 16 and I took her for a ride in my '65 Coronet the other day. She thought it smelled bad and was too loud. Her daily driver is an electric car (Leaf) so an old musclecar is a bit of a rude shock! My car has carpet, headliner, seat cushions, hood bracing, etc. so I can't imagine what she would've thought of Tim's Valiant.

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Re: A body chassis [Re: AndyF] #2548537
09/10/18 09:42 PM
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The Dynamat i put in really made a huge difference in the drivability of the Red Brick. It was worth the extra weight in my opinion. The ride is very smooth and not harsh, which was surprising. I had a basically stock 89 Saleen Mustang that had a much harsher ride, but did not handle as well as the Brick. That car with fuel injection, some gears, and 5/6 speed would make for a really impressive all around car.

Re: A body chassis [Re: NV69B7RR] #2549055
09/11/18 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted By NV69B7RR
The Dynamat i put in really made a huge difference in the drivability of the Red Brick. It was worth the extra weight in my opinion. The ride is very smooth and not harsh, which was surprising. I had a basically stock 89 Saleen Mustang that had a much harsher ride, but did not handle as well as the Brick. That car with fuel injection, some gears, and 5/6 speed would make for a really impressive all around car.


Ironically, I had Dynamat added in my car and I didn't notice much of a difference in noise or heat. The heat that's coming out of the trans tunnel is the worst on the freeway. But otherwise, my car is almost what you described.

Re: A body chassis [Re: AndyF] #2549269
09/12/18 04:28 PM
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Heatreflection should really be done on the side of the heatsource.
Take a look at new cars, they have aluminium shields on the underside of the car.

Re: A body chassis [Re: AndyF] #2549933
09/14/18 12:37 PM
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ALL I GOTTA SAY IS " 4 TOUCHDOWNS IN ONE GAME, NO MA'AM, AND 340'S RULE ! ! ! A BODIES FOREVER ! MOD EM HOW YA WANT ! ( I own and drive one ) Let the snob have the resto, ZZZZZ.....


Re: A body chassis [Re: AndyF] #2550172
09/15/18 01:38 AM
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Uhhh...Posting while intoxicated is not recommended.

Re: A body chassis [Re: Frankenduster] #2550267
09/15/18 12:14 PM
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I think Schwartz sees $$$ in the 'cuda-A body, and not the "Bundy mobiles" and "Lady drives a Scamp" / "Grand parents choice specials" us commoners (poor dunks,err drunkz, (burp), and stoners, peaked in High school types etc.. ya know, the non pretentious low income losers) drive. I better sell some more shoes, Amazon don't fail me .....

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Re: A body chassis [Re: DemonDuster] #2551062
09/17/18 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted By DD3
I think Schwartz sees $$$ in the 'cuda-A body, and not the "Bundy mobiles" and "Lady drives a Scamp" / "Grand parents choice specials" us commoners (poor dunks,err drunkz, (burp), and stoners, peaked in High school types etc.. ya know, the non pretentious low income losers) drive. I better sell some more shoes, Amazon don't fail me .....


You may have peaked in high school but your grammar and communication skills seem to have peaked some time around the third grade.

What the hell are you trying to say?

laugh

Re: A body chassis [Re: AndyF] #2551147
09/17/18 05:19 PM
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I think he's trying to say Schwartz is looking for a few high rolling name droppers and not Joe Sixpack to bankroll them.


They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
Re: A body chassis [Re: MRGTX] #2551166
09/17/18 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted By MRGTX
Originally Posted By DD3
I think Schwartz sees $$$ in the 'cuda-A body, and not the "Bundy mobiles" and "Lady drives a Scamp" / "Grand parents choice specials" us commoners (poor dunks,err drunkz, (burp), and stoners, peaked in High school types etc.. ya know, the non pretentious low income losers) drive. I better sell some more shoes, Amazon don't fail me .....


You may have peaked in high school but your grammar and communication skills seem to have peaked some time around the third grade.

What the hell are you trying to say?

laugh


Al Bundy has nothing on him?

Just teasing, all in good fun.

Not everybody got past the second laugh2 grade.


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Re: A body chassis [Re: jcc] #2551357
09/18/18 01:31 AM
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Says bolt on chassis but to what? What ever it is you would need to cut a lot before bolting on anything.


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Re: A body chassis [Re: DemonDuster] #2551471
09/18/18 12:41 PM
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"The longest shock travel of any chassis manufacturer" ! Can spin out like a 911. Ride like an Oldsmobuick.


Re: A body chassis [Re: DemonDuster] #2551616
09/18/18 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted By DD3
Ride like an Oldsmobuick.



Reason GM went to 4 link is that leafs rode too harsh for the pillow like ride they were going after.

And somehow a 4 link is now a "performance" suspension.

With a crap ton of help it can handle, never met one OEM 4 link setup that I like how it handled and oddly enough GM's handling cars weren't 4 links either.


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