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Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: Nick Stevanovski] #2549986
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Ran this Crane Commander in my old 70 6pk Super Bee,back then,nothing I ever tried could come close.Only other can I used was the Racer Browm SSH-25,also worked very well but the Crane suited better.

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Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: Nick Stevanovski] #2550000
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One thing I don't like about Comp and others is they don't have people that no what there selling. All there selling is part numbers and what the computer tells them. A few years ago I was looking for a cam for my old 500" RB, its always been a 7200 rpm motor and I wanted to slow it down to 6500. Comps answer was a small 250 duration .550 lift cam, that's it. I called Lunadi and talked with one of the guys who new his [censored] and cam up with a 276/284@.50 and 590/600 lift ground 2 degrees advanced on a 110 cl. I forgot to say this big block has 915 heads that have 2.18/1.84 valves and all the work that goes with them, this is the reason for all the duration.
Peak torque is 620 at 4400 peak horse power is 645 at 6100 and still making 623 at 6500 the limit I will turn it.
It is 12.5 to 1 so e-85

The kids at Comp had no answers for me.


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Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: Nick Stevanovski] #2550054
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I just want to say thanks for all the replies, but for the kids that can’t read: I’m not only thinking of comp cams. So far the best cams I have found for a daily driver are these two, because of the low end rpm range. I specifically stated if you have another brand that has good daily driver manners, then tell me. I also wouldn’t want a roller or solid.

Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: Nick Stevanovski] #2550078
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Where in NC are you?

Let a mopar engine builder grind you a cam tailored to your exact application.
For an off the shelf mass market hyd cam I would probably run a Lunati Voodoo grind myself.

I would run an edelbrock performer rpm intake if you have the clearance.If not probably a Holley street dominator.If you want a vacuum secondary that is fine but whatever you run should be a minimum of 750cfm IMO.

Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: lewtot184] #2550103
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Originally Posted By lewtot184
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Man , a year ago when i was putting my engine together , you would of thought from all the GREAT ADVICE i got from this website that the Comp Cams XE Hydraulic Series was the only way to go - Especially there XEHL Series Cams

Now a year later , there Trash - Garbage - Junk , So many better options

I looked at Howards - Lunati etc. back then , read countless builds online , all the reviews from other Mopar Websites BUT BUT BUT

YIKES !!!! What the hell happened

comp cams seems to have won the marketing battle with their large dealer network and all the favorable magazine/internet write-ups. very unfortunate. the internet isn't always your friend either.


Along with this website

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To add

So far so great !!!


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Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: Nick Stevanovski] #2550146
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Well nevermind on the 268 or 274 I looked at the lunati 10230703 and have pretty much made my mind. It has an 1800-6200 rpm range. If anyone has experience with this cam pls lmk. Also anyone know if HP engines is any good? Im deciding between them and Prestige Motorsports. Both look good so thats my next question: which one should I go with, or is there another shop in NC i should use?

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Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: lewtot184] #2550193
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Originally Posted By lewtot184
Originally Posted By bee1971
Man , a year ago when i was putting my engine together , you would of thought from all the GREAT ADVICE i got from this website that the Comp Cams XE Hydraulic Series was the only way to go - Especially there XEHL Series Cams

Now a year later , there Trash - Garbage - Junk , So many better options

I looked at Howards - Lunati etc. back then , read countless builds online , all the reviews from other Mopar Websites BUT BUT BUT

YIKES !!!! What the hell happened

comp cams seems to have won the marketing battle with their large dealer network and all the favorable magazine/internet write-ups. very unfortunate. the internet isn't always your friend either.
Well put but I'd change it to "the internet is OFTEN not your friend". LOL Waayyy too much useless stuff(BS) floating round. Love the few guys that are way beyond my paygrade that have the patience to try and help. Comp does have a lot of good lobes,just watch out or go to a dealer that knows what you need and there are at least 1 or 2 on this site that can help.

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Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: Nick Stevanovski] #2550198
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Originally Posted By Nick Stevanovski
Well nevermind on the 268 or 274 I looked at the lunati 10230703 and have pretty much made my mind. It has an 1800-6200 rpm range. If anyone has experience with this cam pls lmk. Also anyone know if HP engines is any good? Im deciding between them and Prestige Motorsports. Both look good so thats my next question: which one should I go with, or is there another shop in NC i should use?


Thats pretty much similar to the Crower 271HDP, but the Crower on 112 centerline, a bit less lift and a bit more adv duration.

That lunati used to be good adviced around quite ago.

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Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: Nick Stevanovski] #2550210
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Myself I like the MP .557 solid flat tappet cam in mild 440 builds that you want to make good power for what it is. I have run it in a few combo's from 383's to 440's and even a buddy ran it in his 340. I ran the MP .557 in my old 440 which ran nice and had great street manners. It pushed my 63 to an 11.49 in full street trim in a mild 906 headed 440. But I have no idea who makes the MP cams today and how good the quality of them are. I have had good luck breaking in flat tappet cams as I have never wiped a cam. On my last cam I did remove the inner springs and added a bottle of zinc additive along with the cam lube. I use Valvoline VR1 racing oil even when breaking in my cams and have always had good luck never wiping a cam lobe. I got my last cam from Dwayne Porter and you cant go wrong with his cams. Ron

Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: Nick Stevanovski] #2550237
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Wow. This thread is entertaining. Please carry on.

Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: 383man] #2550258
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Originally Posted By 383man
Myself I like the MP .557 solid flat tappet cam in mild 440 builds that you want to make good power for what it is. I have run it in a few combo's from 383's to 440's and even a buddy ran it in his 340. I ran the MP .557 in my old 440 which ran nice and had great street manners. It pushed my 63 to an 11.49 in full street trim in a mild 906 headed 440. But I have no idea who makes the MP cams today and how good the quality of them are. I have had good luck breaking in flat tappet cams as I have never wiped a cam. On my last cam I did remove the inner springs and added a bottle of zinc additive along with the cam lube. I use Valvoline VR1 racing oil even when breaking in my cams and have always had good luck never wiping a cam lobe. I got my last cam from Dwayne Porter and you cant go wrong with his cams. Ron


I have cut three WIX filters open at work (A@P Mechanics) since building my new motor with the Comp Cams XE275HL

Guys said I should bee beyond happy with how the filter media looked spread out

They even sent out one of my oil samples like they do with all there piston aircraft

Perfection

Running Valvoline VR1 Racing Oil Silver Bottle

Broke the cam in and pre oiled with Comp Cams 10w30 break in oil

Like I said earlier , other then the sewing machine sound at idle I couldn’t bee happier with this street motor 383/432 Stroker


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Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: Nick Stevanovski] #2550286
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This is the cam I picked for my 440...stockish rebuild, just freshened it up. Removed the solid Crower and valvetrain and 915 heads and headers. Back to stock HP manifolds and exhaust, a set of 906's I had, compression right at 9.5 on already .030 over motor, I just gave it a rehoning, new rings and bearings and a thicker head gasket for today's pump gas, was going with another gasket for 9.8 cr, but who knows what swill they'll force on us so I went to 9.5. Car is very happy with this cam, idles nice with a little rump, not obnoxious and pulls great. Changed out the 10" 3500 tc also when I rebuilt trans to a 11" 2400-2700rpm and original 3.55 rear. I like the cam for my motor and the build I did, when I researched any of the cams I was thinking about, I kept coming back to this one, I called the tech line at Lunati and the I was told this cam/lifter pkg would be perfect for what I was doing...good luck with yours

Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: shakerjoe] #2550310
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You might as well have asked, “What cam are you running? The one I am considering is crap because it’s not in your ride.”

You would have received the same results. Comp Cams are only as “good” as they are popular, and that depends on how the wind blows. 🤣

I have no recommendations. Just a comment. I’m running the Comp Cams XE274H. Yes it’s a little noisy. Idles with a nice lump and zero hesitation at idle. Car takes off like it’s on banana peels. 3.91 SG 727 TF. There are probably 20 other similar grinds that basically get you the same place because as you can see, there are lots of guys out there who are enthusiastic about their particular grind.

The one common factor we can all agree on here is that 440 Mopar mills kick butt. With a well-balanced combo of street upgrades, you’re going to have a permagrin behind the wheel.


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Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: Big Bad Bee] #2550435
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I like BobK's six pack cam...

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Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: Nick Stevanovski] #2550502
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My one final question would be, with this setup and the voodoo cam, should i go with 3.55 or 3.73 gears? Again its a daily driver that I’d still like to rip off the line every once in awhile.

Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: Nick Stevanovski] #2550697
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Always go with high gears in a daily. You might even look into 3.23s. Depends on how close work is. A stockish 440 will be fun even with airplane gears.


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Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: Nick Stevanovski] #2550713
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Originally Posted By Nick Stevanovski
My one final question would be, with this setup and the voodoo cam, should i go with 3.55 or 3.73 gears? Again its a daily driver that I’d still like to rip off the line every once in awhile.


I have a 440 Cuda hemi 4 speed, 3.55 car. DEFINATELY DO NOT go with 3.23s! You have overdrive, my first choice would be 3.73's if you have them, but 3.55s will work fine.

I THINK I am running the Lunati Voodoo you are talking about (they changed part numbers several years ago and I lost track).
My cam is the .493 / .513 lift. 268/272 duration(I think).

Powerband comes on at 1900 and pulls hard. Anything less than 1900 will lug under throttle. I have not found the top end, but I've only looked for it up to about 6200.
I would LOVE to have an overdrive, but it's not worth the expense and work to go for it...for me.

Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: Nick Stevanovski] #2550719
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Todd @ Marsh Performance is a NC guy and/or David Klutz (crabman 173) would get you there with no drama and the desired result.

I know several others in NC who I will let machine stuff for me depending on what part of the state you are in may or may not be useful.

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Originally Posted By Pacnorthcuda
Originally Posted By Nick Stevanovski
My one final question would be, with this setup and the voodoo cam, should i go with 3.55 or 3.73 gears? Again its a daily driver that I’d still like to rip off the line every once in awhile.


I have a 440 Cuda hemi 4 speed, 3.55 car. DEFINATELY DO NOT go with 3.23s! You have overdrive, my first choice would be 3.73's if you have them, but 3.55s will work fine.

I THINK I am running the Lunati Voodoo you are talking about (they changed part numbers several years ago and I lost track).
My cam is the .493 / .513 lift. 268/272 duration(I think).

Powerband comes on at 1900 and pulls hard. Anything less than 1900 will lug under throttle. I have not found the top end, but I've only looked for it up to about 6200.
I would LOVE to have an overdrive, but it's not worth the expense and work to go for it...for me.


Yes thats the exact one (they changed from 5 digit numbers to long ones if im not wrong, if im right about that yours is the 60303). So off the line youd say (in a race situation) to dump the clutch at 1900?

Re: Camshaft for street 440 [Re: gch] #2550773
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Originally Posted By gch
Todd @ Marsh Performance is a NC guy and/or David Klutz (crabman 173) would get you there with no drama and the desired result.

I know several others in NC who I will let machine stuff for me depending on what part of the state you are in may or may not be useful.

Marsh performance is almost two hours away (which I wouldnt have much of a problem with if it was the closest one), but David Kluttz works for HP engines correct? I remember reading in article HP engines is mentioned in (the AMSOL engine challenge) and it was David Kluttz working with HP. So does he work there or was he just helping them out?

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